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Let’s head into the studio now with our hostess with the Mostess, Carol J. Dunlop.

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Hey, everyone. How are you doing? Okay, I would say that a lot of your online while strategies and and, Yes, all of them probably going to be 11 in 2026. I have a new book every going to do with the UN Marketing Academy. So watch out for that and just mention any academy of the Academy is on fire.

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We had our first Academy in Circle Marketing session yesterday, and it was, amazing.

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We are really clear on what I can do for your business, how we can, how it does what it does, why it does what it does, and how you can come out on the winning end.

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Because I know there’s a lot of talk about AI and bots and all that stuff, but AI is a game changer. Not only is it a game changer, it is a time saver. And it’s,

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kind of mind melding thing. I equal about it. Yeah. And I also use chat to see if I went back to chat.

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You can see once, was on a sit for a while, but I’m so much so, you know, very handy with actual chat bot business and stuff. But anyway, let me get of what I’m talking about today because I will get off on it and it. So today we’re talking about how to market when you hate marketing. This was one of the episodes I put out to my

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social media product, my list, and overwhelmingly people came back and said, I want to know about their work choices.

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And they picked this one first along with a couple other ones, but this one was first. How to market when you hate marketing. So I can understand. I know exactly what you’re talking about. That’s

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when I didn’t understand what marketing was. I can’t say I hated it, it was just part of soul sucking and just never went. My way.

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Or I thought I did or didn’t know what to do with it. So now I’m going to tell you what you need to do hiring it to do it so that you can fall in love with marketing. It caused me to fall in love with it. You’ll want to do it, and you want to do it more. Because here’s the thing you have to market.

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If you don’t market, no one knows you’re around. No one knows your business exists. No one knows it can buy from you if no one knows it, what does that mean? No sales zero. And it means you’re not making any money at all. Age is wasting your time on an expensive hobby, so we can’t have that. So today we’re going to examine your mindset around marketing.

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Find that if you’re talking to the wrong people,

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explain how marketing works on a curve.

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And also we’re going to be talking about you being true to yourself and what you need to do. I’ve got some questions for you that you’re going to, that you’re going to want to answer when you finish this at the end of this episode, I am thinking, hoping, praying that you will at least like marketing a little bit and want to try some of the things that I’m talking about so that you can get stuff out there.

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Get this goal to people who are going to buy from you and start making some money, money, money. Right, right.

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So before we go on,

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guess what? I have a new bundle coming out. It’s called the Ultimate List Building Bundle. If that name sounds familiar to some of you who have been around for a while. Yes, I did a summit entitled In Their Name, except for except it was the ultimate list building summit, and I had almost 30 participants in the summit who were all talking about the way that you can build your list all the way from Facebook ads to, just general stuff, you know, with that lead magnets, doing challenges, doing summits,

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doing all kinds of things. So it was great. So now we’re having this building bundle. My goal is 50 contributors, 50 different ways that you can build your list and want to build on your business, make more money, get more impact, and also make it make money for yourself because there’s going to be an affiliate paying attention all the contributors can be affiliates if they want to.

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I want to set up for them and hopefully they will do it. And then you going to make money because you’re going to have a, bundle booster, which is actually a tracker to show you all the people that all the contributors. And then you can say who you want to go further with, who you like now, and what they’re right there.

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And then invest it to somebody and you got to go further with them, you can put that down in the tracker. See also there’s going to be some other goodies in there because that VIP upgrade swag bag the open the sale. And so I that is going to be filled with amazingness that you don’t want to miss out on that.

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So the money as we say, the money is in your marketing is more than talking to who are you, who’s on your list? Those are the people that you can market to, and they have raised and has, hey, I want to be part of your tribe or whatever, and you need to start marketing to them and sell it to them.

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But before that, you got to get them on the list. So this bundle kicks off August 25th and it runs the 30th. The deadline to apply

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is July the 25th. So that’s this couple weeks for you to decide, you know, how can I contribute to this? And I’ll tell you the one thing that you can do that is far and above anything that you could really create, and that is to tell your story about how you created the list that you’ve got now, what you did step by step and you what you could take that, create a video and then go through a checklist, with a checklist with it.

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And that’s an actual training. You can actually use that on your own people. But, you know, I want stuff that is all that is worth at least $7. And I know there’ll be at least $7 worth of stuff, probably 27 or even 97, depending on how big, depending on how big your list is. If you’re just getting started and you make a fuze and you want to do so, thank you.

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This thing here, this started building

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that it and this ultimately still bundle. Why? Because you’re going to build your list for the people who opt in to your list. The fact that more about you, you know, you can also make money when people from your link click to buy either the swag bag or the, bundle boost in bundles is only $9 and you’re like, Carol, I’m splitting with you 50%.

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You know, you make it worth it. Yeah, make for 50. Right. But the upgrade is going to be $37. So that’s a little bit more savvy and more people that you get to come in and buy from you. More money that you make. Right. And it’s going to be along with all these other people. So people are going to go through a smorgasbord or like a mile to go and and voila, looking at all the things that they can get.

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All this stuff is free to them. So it’s going to be great. So if you have a product that’s sitting on your website, you have it so many. Or maybe you sell on a lot of it, put it in the model bundle because it’s got to be a paid product. We want this to be premium. We want this to be something that people want and will get, not just something that’s jumping up there hard.

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These words

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yeah, nobody.

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So in order to participate in that saying go to a marketer business.com/you lbb un marketing business.com/you lbb become a contributor. Start making some money impact build your list, get more clients. It’s all for you

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is tech time

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and the technology that I’m showcasing today is active campaign.

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I think that I’ve

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pretty much established that I love active campaign, and it is a top number one list provider list.

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I don’t know what they call the list, but I think it’s list provider,

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actually did a thing on ChatGPT when I was researching for a client, and I’ll like, tell me the top five list providers, mail list providers that are out there now active was number one. And you know what? Because of that automation, because of their delivery, because of gain. And so I’ll point that here.

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So you create your email, it gets to whoever the person sees it. You can create automations because, you know, once you have a lead magnet or something, you want somebody to buy, you want them to stay with you. So you want them to continually buy from you. The more you put out there, the higher it takes them from that song.

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Like the same stuff on some of the higher level stuff. And, you know, Keep Active campaign makes it so easy for you to do and to keep track of your people when they’re coming in, when a deal is going down and all that. And admittedly, I have to say that I have not used the CIO part of it like I needed to, as experimenting with moxie.

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I know there’s pipeline, there’s underreport, there’s all these things. But I’m going to dig in a little bit deeper into active campaign. I have not really use a CRM like I’m supposed to, but my business is getting bigger, so I need to. I need to figure out, you know, I don’t want to leave any money or people on the table at the asking questions or trying to find out something.

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I want to do an active campaign to do that for you. And guess what? You can get a 14 day free trial from me. All you need to do is go to see a site corporation.com/active campaign up, and I’ll set it up for you. And you can see what I who campaign is all about. Do that now.

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Now we’re getting ready to get into the media part of this show. Right. And that is where I’m going to be talking about how to market. When you hate marketing. So when we come back, that’s what I’m going to be doing.

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Okay. So let’s get rolling on this information. So I know y’all are waiting with bated breath. Please tell me how I can stop hating marketing. Start loving it so I can get more clients, make more money, create a greater impact. All that new stuff that marketing does for you. So the first thing you gotta do is check your mindset.

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Because mindset is everything, right? It is everything. It guides you, it stops you. It makes you do things you didn’t think you wanted. You could do, or it makes you sit down and not do things you should.

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Right? So think about this for a minute. How do you feel about marketing? Get clear. Why do you hate it? You know, give them a bit of anger.

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Doubt that. Why do you hate marketing? Write that down.

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Is it to complicate it for you?

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Do you feel like it’s too much to do?

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Or maybe you have no idea what to do, but that’s going to change the day after you figure out why you hate it and put your reasonings, your reasons and example for all that stuff is write it down, get it out of your system, because you’re going to need to get it out of your system to change that mindset and to come around to loving it.

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Because whether you love or hate marketing, you got to do it in your business. Can’t. It can’t go on without it. And even the most seasoned, most well-prepared, you know, the biggest people out there who are making proof of dollars is hand over fist. They market, you know that. And you would think that they don’t have to, but you have to market because marketing is all really, it’s all about just getting the word out about what you do and letting people know what you do.

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So you gotta figure out who are your people, what are you trying to tell them that you do? And how is what you do going to help them?

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So as I said, marketing is getting the word out. What you do, who you help and how you help them. So just think about what, who and how

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who what is how.

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It doesn’t matter how you put them together and the three things that you need to think about when you’re. Martin, what are you doing? What are you talking to? And how can you help? How this whatever this thing is having to help. And that is what you build your marketing around, build your story around, build your things around it.

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You’re telling people,

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all right. So you got your mindset thing ready. You know, about why you hate it. Get ready. Get ready to change all that right turn to people because they want to look at our behavior. All right. The number two thing you have to remember, think about put in your brain is you could be talking to the wrong people.

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That’s why ain’t nothing happening with your marketing. Because you’re not talking to the right people. You may have your whole bunch of who could be wrong, or you may need to dig in deeper to that who? It may be the same like buckets of people, but deep down inside, and maybe some others who are looking at you like I’m in charge, that oh, he talks too much.

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Oh, right. You know, whatever, whatever we gotta look at if you’re talking to the right people in that. So I want you to remember this equation. If you write down on your page 100%,

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and we’re just going to say that there are 100 people out there that we could market to right now, just 1800. It doesn’t matter. I’m hundred people, but this is what separates the what the chaff from the I think what it is.

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And that’s not even a good example like anything, it’s the good from the bad or whatever. So 20% of that hundred or 20 people out of 100, you see them lined up, 20 people are ready to buy. They get their credit card in hand, they’re ready to fly, or they got the cash in their pocket. They’re ready to go.

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The caveat is everyone is trying to market enough people. They’re like, oh, you’re ready to go, I want you come on. So you can see, you can imagine, if you’ve ever been to Cancun, Mexico can’t airport in Mexico when you get to the very end of the the runway or something that not the runway, it’s opposite. When you’re getting ready to go outside to get to your vehicle, your transportation or whatever, there’s a small section that you pass through and all these people are they’re trying to get you to rent a car.

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It’s like an hour. I just it’s whatever. And it seems like a thousand people, they yell at you, hey, man, don’t you remember me from the other night? I was your waiter or whatever. They just say anything they don’t even know you from yet. But don’t let them make eye contact, because then they’re going to talk to you.

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But it’s it’s just crazy. And they are relentless. I told my sister about it when she came that recently I was like, well, you get to that part and you open those double doors opening. You see all those people is, it’s like straight from the double doors to the doors that lead outside. Do not say anything to anybody because you we already have a right range and all it.

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So she didn’t need to get anybody. I was like, just move straight. She was like, oh, people are relentless. Yes. Everybody is relentless. Trying to get to those 20% who are ready to buy when you be, when you say, oh, I will. Oh people, they’ve got their credit card in hand or cash or whatever, they’re ready to go.

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Well, you got to work really hard to get those people because they have so many choices that you are you are you are you and, you know, want them to be looking at you like that. You want to see you want them to see you as the only one, okay. The next. That’s only 20 people now. And another ten that, 10% of those hundred will never buy from you.

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They don’t want what you have. They don’t need what you have. They could care less about what you’re selling. And frankly, they just don’t deal with you. And it’s probably not anything personal, but it might be, you know how we are. We

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what we buy with our emotions. We don’t necessarily buy sit down and think about stuff, especially when, you know, we really think about this is this is the best way that I think this practical.

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This is logical. No. We like emotions. I don’t know what shoes I want that or those earrings. I don’t care if they cost $500. I’m going, wow. You know, that’s that’s how we are. But 10% of the people will never buy from you for whatever reason. So that’s kind of 30% of those 100 people that are there that you could kind of put to the side.

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Now, the 20%, you make it in front of this like, oh, my bathroom right away. But how do you know who they are? Right. So I’m going to tell you you need to concentrate on that 70%. And here’s why.

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Because

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the 70%

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either are looking for you but don’t know you exist,

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or they’re looking to solve a problem, but they don’t know if it can be solved or they know something is going on, but they don’t know exactly what it is.

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So they’re kind of in a state of flux or confusion, but they are open. They are open to listening to you. They’re open to hear what you have to say. And if you can make a case for them or tell them about your product and how it helps, then they will most likely buy from you. That’s why I say you gotta know your who.

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You gotta know your what you gotta know happen right?

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and the way you get them is with educating, educating, educating them, educating them about who you are, why you doing what you’re doing,

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how what you sell helps them. And what is it that you sell? What is your product service course, program, whatever it is. And how does it help them?

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As a matter of fact, yesterday, the Academy inner Circle marketing session doctor Alfredo Bradford and I were able to go through a whole session of using AI to go from I don’t know what I’m doing, I don’t know

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really who I’m talking to.

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I kind of have an idea and I don’t know what problems I’m you know, what pain points they have.

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We started that way at the end. She had a plethora of pain points. She could choose from that this exact audience is struggling with right now and looking for a solution and really to pay for it. Right. So we found all of that. Actually, this is totally blown away. And I was looking at the things that, it was through we were using cloud, but you can use any of the, the chat bots to do it.

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So we’re looking through it and some of those things she was talking about, wow. They had it in my heart. I’d be willing to, get some information on this and go through this, you know, things like, she’s a, she’s a pastor and a minister and all of that. So her thing, one of her big things is church.

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Her. And that’s the, the church, her and how to come back then had to come back from that. How to trust others. Oh wow. Does that have experienced a lot of church her. You know, when those preachers and ministers and stuff, they just let you down, let you down because there was some craziness over here that they should not be doing, like, molesting the women congregants.

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Yeah. And standing up there in front of them, in front of all the Congress and Congress and telling it there. And you were sitting there doing that, said, well, I had one preacher who was, having an affair with his finance director’s wife. What, you know, talk about church. Her crazy, crazy. And we got a lot of hurting questions out there.

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So at the end of the time, she went from, I don’t know to I know I read I’m doing this. She was so inspired, so that’s that’s the 70%. They are open to hearing what you have to say. Some of them know that they have a problem and are actively searching for a solution. Some of them don’t know they have a problem, but they know something is off and they’re trying to see what it is and what they can do about it because they don’t like it feeling that they’re having right now.

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And then the other people are like,

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you,

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and I know what’s wrong, but I don’t know what to do about it. So with education, you can come in and you can tell them, you know, webinars or with Facebook Live or with your email marketing that we do. Sometimes it’s just a post that you put out there and people are, oh my God, yes.

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So concentrate on that 70%.

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Because they will understand how you can help stop the pain and you can educate them on who you are, why they need you, and what’s going to happen to them if they don’t use your product, service program or whatever. So because that’s a big thing, no one likes to stay stuck in. And stuck is one of those words that people say, if you’re stuck, you know, whatever.

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But sometimes you are stuck. You don’t know what to do. You don’t know where to go, which way to turn, you don’t know who can help you and when. Someone’s coming out of that mist

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and saying, hey, I know exactly what’s going on with you. Is this, this, this and this. And I have a program that can help you because you can do this, this, this, this.

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And if you don’t take care of this problem, this, this, this, and this is going to happen to you, and if you can, if you have somebody telling you that you like, oh, I need to listen to you because I want that, that, results I want this other result, this girl. What the result is bad. So start talking to them.

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Talk to the 70%. The 20%. They’re good. They’re given. You know they’re going to buy from you if they can find you. So that’s why that’s show up. That’s why you got to market. Because when they got that credit card in hand and they’re ready to spend some money on somebody. So if you are the person who meets their criteria, oh, you got the sale right.

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Don’t worry about those other 10%. They don’t want to talk to you that are, you know, they ask you crazy questions that don’t have anything to do with anything. I know, what happens like,

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how about it? So I had to have a lot about I can’t right. And explain the whole thing. And she opted in to have a session with me to talk about her podcast stuff, and then she gets on the only get in the session with what’s a podcast?

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I was like, why?

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What did I just say to you? You know, what did I just say? And I couldn’t say, well, go back and listen. That day again, I had explained to it we what we actually wound up working together on her website wasn’t a podcast or a website, but that was, well, that I never should have tell because sometimes you can evolve with that 10% of people and they just like, okay, I’m on to how are you?

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And then it’s the wrong turn. Everyone around. So I had found her. I don’t find many clients for her.

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Okay, so now we’ve learned that you gotta change your mindset. That’s a sign that you people will turn it over.

00:25:07:40 – 00:25:18:10
Unknown
And now we know that you are talking to the right people, because you’re talking to that 70% and you’re going to educate them on what you do, how to help them, and how to stop that pain from crying.

00:25:18:15 – 00:25:18:50
Unknown
Now.

00:25:18:50 – 00:25:40:17
Unknown
And number three thing you need to keep in mind is marketing works on a curve. So let’s say you’re marketing, you market. You are who you market. You are who you get clients. Yeah you market, but you get so busy the target market anymore. So you drop the marketing down and you stop marketing just about. Yeah. And you go along and you go a lot.

00:25:40:22 – 00:25:59:28
Unknown
And then what happens is all this right here drops down to nothing. You’re running out of stuff that you that people you can help or the clients who came in with the big money that they spent in and gone out somewhere, unless you got recurring revenue, which I’m going to talk about it in another episode. But let’s say you sold all that.

00:25:59:28 – 00:26:01:29
Unknown
What big thing or whatever you got,

00:26:01:29 – 00:26:15:35
Unknown
you got a lot of people in. And now when I buy something, you the marketing went down. It doesn’t happen right away. And then it goes on for a while. You’re you’re coasting. Yeah, I, I’m doing good and I was. And everything dries up, you know. Oh my God, I got a market.

00:26:15:40 – 00:26:35:35
Unknown
Now when you’re trying to ramp back up all that time, you’re not making the money that you bought. And now you’re on this like I’m on the bottom of the curve trying to come up. Because now you’re stressed. Because you haven’t been marketing. Don’t have the money coming in. People are buying like they were. And you’re like, what happened?

00:26:35:39 – 00:26:51:54
Unknown
It’s because you stopped marketing. You gotta keep some stuff going on. Like, you know, marketing it. Don’t stop it. You should be doing that every week, right? You need to also do something big, like a podcast or a lab where you can take from those things. You can take and break them up and do short form videos like reels.

00:26:51:54 – 00:27:13:03
Unknown
And what is the YouTube shorts and things like that? You gotta keep yourself in front of your potential audience, because you never know when that 20% is going to pop up, say, hey, I got this money, I’m ready to go, oh, I want to help you. So when you stop marketing, you can just about in about three months, your sales going to drop off because you’re not out there.

00:27:13:12 – 00:27:35:28
Unknown
You do this with your hand down, working. Do you know, finish up the projects that you got the money for. And now you look up and it’s like, oh, there’s no anything coming and no reason for anything. So you gotta remember, marketing works on a curve. You just want to stay steady with it. Couple things. That’s why I keep this, I guess knowing because I can always tell you about what’s going on with me.

00:27:35:33 – 00:27:54:43
Unknown
Brag on my fliers, brag on stuff that’s going on in my business, things I’ve tried to do. Share my frustrations because it ain’t all peaches and cream and the rose colored glasses and all that. Sometimes it’s just a flop sometimes, and you’re like, how do you feel like that? You got to do it. You got to do it.

00:27:54:43 – 00:28:07:48
Unknown
All right. And the number four thing is, you are not being true to who you are. You’re using marketing strategies you don’t like that drain your soul or feel self.

00:28:07:48 – 00:28:14:54
Unknown
I said, you gotta follow love, but you gotta love what you’re doing. You know that thing that people say, you know, fun job you love and you never work a day in your life?

00:28:15:05 – 00:28:43:03
Unknown
That ain’t exactly true. I mean, I love what I do, I really I love teaching people how to market their business to make money with it. I love teaching new things that people don’t know about that work. For me, I love trying stuff out and then telling others how you do right. But I’m not going to do some other crazy stuff that I really, really don’t like that drains migraines me, drains me, and know that ain’t work.

00:28:43:08 – 00:28:50:02
Unknown
So you have to fall in love or be in love with what you’re doing, or some fear is like

00:28:50:02 – 00:29:00:50
Unknown
to continually get the word out about what you’re doing and so people can see you see your energy, how awesome you are. It come in with you. So I’ve got three

00:29:00:50 – 00:29:07:40
Unknown
ways three questions. We’ve got three questions. I think that three questions so that you can figure out what you love to do.

00:29:07:45 – 00:29:16:50
Unknown
All right. Number one is what do you like to do best. You like the top I’m sorry I love the dog. Right. Do you like to write? Do you like to do interviews?

00:29:16:50 – 00:29:23:50
Unknown
Do you like to meet face to face or screen to screen? You know, sometimes you can’t really, you know, I just finished a,

00:29:23:50 – 00:29:27:02
Unknown
summit that was live in Australia, right?

00:29:27:02 – 00:29:36:36
Unknown
Obviously, I’m not in Australia next year, but I’m not in Australia. So we missed green screen because we did a live session Q&A after that. It was amazing.

00:29:36:36 – 00:29:50:23
Unknown
Kate. They’re they’re great maidens is their thing. They are awesome. So, do you like profile and who likes it? I don’t know, but it’s a whole, you know, I, I made the mistake of thinking that all of this is, you know, thinking of somebody.

00:29:50:30 – 00:30:05:44
Unknown
But there’s a whole strategy behind that. There’s a whole bunch of people that love this whole pilot. They will call half a dollars, but days and just keep going. Hang up phone. He thought I had a job like that once. I mean, I lasted like 30 minutes, but I didn’t have a job.

00:30:05:44 – 00:30:08:46
Unknown
I had to call people and try to sell those on valet.

00:30:08:46 – 00:30:29:31
Unknown
And I had for me because I knew that copilot was what they like to scratch. But I do have to talk, write, interview and meet screen screen. What about you? Do you like any of those things? And those things floats your boat? Maybe you, I don’t know, see? See what variation of that that you like. What what sparks your interest?

00:30:29:36 – 00:30:31:52
Unknown
That’s what you got. You got to do what you like to do.

00:30:31:52 – 00:30:56:44
Unknown
Number two. What lights you up? This video light you up. This audio, this blogging, writing articles, email marketing, creating tutorials, how to teaching any of that kind of like oh, she said so. So I like that teacher stuff. I like that I know that some of the teachers have quit their whole teaching thing.

00:30:56:44 – 00:31:18:51
Unknown
It was, you know, the big thing right after 2020, the great pandemic, you know, after the great resignation and over like 4 million people just quit their jobs and, and started doing what they loved because they were tired of those soul sucking jobs. And now some, some people are having to go back, you know, some influence. They get flows that go back to that.

00:31:18:51 – 00:31:37:55
Unknown
Not of, maybe they weren’t doing what they loved, or maybe they fell out of love with what they were doing. You know, times change, seasons change. People change. You just never know for that. But what, like you do a video. Love video, y’all. Until audio. I’m doing audio. As a matter of fact, they Mullins and I, who’s now they then

00:31:37:55 – 00:31:44:23
Unknown
I forgot she got married, but her name’s on the end, but I forgot she just tell me today, we’re going to do another audio.

00:31:44:23 – 00:32:03:31
Unknown
So we did one last year. Going to another one this year. Live. I love the lot. I love the intricacy of blogging, picking out the pictures. What’s the keyword I’m going to go after and how to structure the whole blog and everything you do. I wrote, I created a whole program around that. But email marketing people say, you know, marketing is dead.

00:32:03:31 – 00:32:14:08
Unknown
It sure is not. That’s how I get most of my clients from, you know, marketing their all my list. So you know what? Let’s you figure that they do that at all. Right. Number three,

00:32:14:08 – 00:32:23:56
Unknown
I use several marketing strategies that convert the catch. And that’s what you want. You don’t want to just be following somebody because they told you, oh, you got to do this right here.

00:32:24:08 – 00:32:39:41
Unknown
This is what’s gonna make it for you. And you start building like, I don’t see nothing coming from this. First of all, you didn’t want to do it. You didn’t like it, you were skeptical, and you and you tried it. You didn’t do it. You didn’t go all in with it. You just tried it out and it work.

00:32:39:41 – 00:32:47:48
Unknown
Wonder why you just tried it out. You got to go all in with this stuff. So my best on marketing strategies that have made me money

00:32:47:48 – 00:33:05:17
Unknown
made me have more impact, got me visibility, put me in front of the people who will continue to spend with me, is writing a bestselling book. Like I said, I’m a ten time bestselling author, soon to be 11 when the sun comes out and in the year, host and influencer podcast.

00:33:05:17 – 00:33:28:25
Unknown
Boy, is this influential podcast. This podcast is teaching you how to get more traffic to your website. All the marketing strategies that I tell you about and introduce an expert summit. I produced 8 to 8 for myself and 12 summits all together for me and for other clients. I have another one that’s coming to the end of this year.

00:33:28:30 – 00:33:33:41
Unknown
And, just tell you this snippet about it is going to be a web design,

00:33:33:41 – 00:33:51:39
Unknown
a website pro summit, like a showcase, a website, because I have met so many web designers who do so many niche things, like I only do websites for speakers, I only do websites for people who have some, this crazy disease. And I want to and they want to talk more about it.

00:33:51:51 – 00:34:09:44
Unknown
I’ll do websites for you. Name you name. So I’m going to bring them all together summit so I can showcase them. And then on the back end in the yeah the upgrade, we’re going to have some other people who can tell you how to do your website. And it’s like copywriters, branding people, graphics and all of that.

00:34:09:44 – 00:34:13:40
Unknown
So that’s coming in November. I’ll be telling you more about it going forward.

00:34:13:40 – 00:34:33:14
Unknown
So I love to write, create videos, talk to people and teach all three of these. Let me of all three of these things I love. I host this podcast weekly. I create 1 to 2 summits a year and I create it. I create like one bestselling book a year.

00:34:33:14 – 00:34:56:03
Unknown
Now this year I did not. I think a receive this again, you got to take a rest yourself. But I’m back on board. Coming in 2026. So like in between those things that are marketing and making money, because I actually created a course for each of those, I have a blogging course. I have a best seller lab post course about, writing a bestselling book.

00:34:56:08 – 00:35:13:26
Unknown
I have a podcast course, and I have an expert summit course, but I added some stuff this year that I didn’t know about the year, and we moved to Mexico at the end of last year, and I’m like, I kind of do some stuff, so I’m going to be hosting two bundles

00:35:13:26 – 00:35:16:52
Unknown
a year and participating into bundles for you.

00:35:16:54 – 00:35:34:05
Unknown
So two of them will be mine and then two of them 2 or 3. I’ll be, participating in. Why? Because bundles have a high impact for me. Really? The last bundle that I was in, it was Booklist, and I think that was

00:35:34:05 – 00:35:44:04
Unknown
it was January everywhere. I can’t remember exactly, but I, I agree my it is 5000 people, about 2000 people from that.

00:35:44:13 – 00:36:06:43
Unknown
Right. And it was really I increased over 3000 from the bundle summit bundle. Some is a podcast that I’ve done. Mason. Right. Context. Javy people. So I love it. I’m going to guess I’m going to get sold at least two summits for next year, and then I’m going to do

00:36:06:43 – 00:36:15:33
Unknown
1 to 2 summits, and then I will teach my peeps how to do what I do and keep consistent money coming in, because that’s the thing.

00:36:15:33 – 00:36:33:44
Unknown
You don’t just do a summit because it’s free. You do summit, you do a summit, a podcast or a book so you can get out there in front of your people and let those at the 70%. This is our teaching them. This is how I’m getting them over to be with us without being like someone in that can’t collaborate.

00:36:33:46 – 00:36:48:19
Unknown
Hey hey hey hey, come over here. Come over here. Now! I am teaching them, giving them the information that they want, that they need. Can’t find anywhere else the way that I teach it. Right. And then they’re coming over to me. It’s a Win-Win all around.

00:36:48:19 – 00:36:56:52
Unknown
Now, I don’t look at these things as a burden. I look at these as the things I love to do, and I’m doing them in different ways.

00:36:57:05 – 00:37:26:23
Unknown
Like, for instance, if you were around for a while when I did my last Ultimate List building summit, and you look at how I’m doing the bundle now go List Building bundle, and you look at the summit that I’m doing, the end of the year is total night and day. I mean, I was operating, what I knew I was still making money by what now is my walk through what I started to deal with the people who are Summit Bundle podcast aficionados, giveaways.

00:37:26:27 – 00:37:53:53
Unknown
They had, when I joined the Audience Growth Club. Leticia Collins has that, and she is amazing. I have profile and several times on this podcast, but you can join, but you want to see a simple version.com/a GC audience grow club. And that’s what was up all these bundles. And I’m looking for people on the summit that are putting looking for people and also podcast are looking for gifts.

00:37:53:58 – 00:38:18:21
Unknown
Someone like that was a no brainer to invest in right. And I have made money over what I have invested with her and was brought with me a bigger impact and got to know from people that I otherwise would not have. So I seriously want you to consider the book, the podcast and the summit, but also the bundles and giveaways and guesting on podcasts.

00:38:18:21 – 00:38:36:54
Unknown
So there’s like six things that you can do that do they feel like marketing? No, not really. Not to me they don’t. But if you have an issue with being on camera, no audio. If you don’t like talking or being on camera, right, you know, create that there’s a whole,

00:38:36:54 – 00:38:42:07
Unknown
economy around the what they call PLR private label, right?

00:38:42:12 – 00:38:55:20
Unknown
People that create stuff that other people use as their own, they get the right for it and they just change a little bit, but they just create that. Coast blue is a great example of that. All her stuff, you buy it

00:38:55:20 – 00:39:03:29
Unknown
and you buy it. Let’s say, for instance, you go pay $47 for a, a workbook, right?

00:39:03:29 – 00:39:23:21
Unknown
It’s already done. It’s already filled in and everything you take that were worth it dressed up in it and, you know, kind of smooth it a little bit because it gives it to you and files to manipulate and edit and all that, and you put it out. So she already did the start stuff for you, and now you just finish it, put your stack of it and boom, put it out there.

00:39:23:21 – 00:39:34:32
Unknown
And I got this thing from that girl who did the, she, she was a Georgia, I think, and taught, dance to some. I cannot think of her name right now, but she always think of it.

00:39:34:32 – 00:39:40:36
Unknown
And you’ll think of it in a good way, isn’t it? Good things. So what do you think about

00:39:40:36 – 00:39:43:00
Unknown
when I told you what I’m sharing with you?

00:39:43:05 – 00:39:52:42
Unknown
Stop. Because we talked about your mindset on paper. I mean, look at how you used to feel, mama. You hated marketing. Sending to send somebody to say the letter M,

00:39:52:42 – 00:39:58:01
Unknown
getting no, that’s that. You turn the page, literally, you turn the page.

00:39:58:01 – 00:40:05:07
Unknown
Now, you know that you were talking to the girl. We were more likely even. You were talking to the wrong people and you were telling them the wrong thing.

00:40:05:12 – 00:40:24:35
Unknown
Well, something was wrong with you. It’s your mark that was scattered. Or you. Your sales are consistent. You need to talk to the wrong people or you telling the right people the wrong thing. You got to fix that and you need to be marketed to that 70%. We got to leave that other 30% to 20 and again, leave them alone because 20 will find you anyway.

00:40:24:35 – 00:40:44:14
Unknown
And they will and they will buy from you that ten don’t worry about them. They just a lot of calls for you. But somebody else, they’re 20 or the 70%. And then you deal with the 70 percenters, the ones who really are in need of I need an education on this. What is happening to me? I have no idea why this is happening.

00:40:44:24 – 00:40:53:57
Unknown
What is it? Or I know what this is, who can help me with it? Or I’m just confused all the way around. What do I need to be doing? Who I need to talk to? Those are the people.

00:40:53:57 – 00:41:00:07
Unknown
And then you need to understand that marketing works on the curve. You know, marketing, market marketing. Then you fall off because you get busy.

00:41:00:12 – 00:41:17:40
Unknown
It goes down about three months. You’re like, oh my God, I go to marketing is that you ramp up and you work. You get replaced. Nobody likes that role because we like zippy easy strangle. Right. And that’s how you streamline. So I want you to answer these questions. Number one, what you like to do best one is talking, writing, interviewing, beating.

00:41:17:40 – 00:41:37:38
Unknown
People call column number two what lights you up is a video audio blog. And, you know, working creating tutorials and how to, teaching. And then three, the simple, marketing strategies that convert the cash. And I will tell you about, you know, that’s, creating a best selling book,

00:41:37:38 – 00:41:47:30
Unknown
creating hosting an influencer podcast, producing an expert summit or participating and or creating bundles and giveaways.

00:41:47:35 – 00:42:07:20
Unknown
Right. That’s where the money is. I’m telling you, that’s what money is. And I have met some ladies who are on fire with this thing, and I’m getting on a gravy train like this. I like it, I like presenting this stuff. Anyway, I’ve done the bottle before and I didn’t really understand the psychology of the whole thing, or how to lay it out or how to do it.

00:42:07:25 – 00:42:28:22
Unknown
I was just like a baby bird doing a baby bird dog. That was my thing. And then I got introduced to the super duper, you know, woman with the Cape thing, and I’m like, I’m on that right now, but it doesn’t matter what you’re doing. You have to love it. Because when you love it, you put more energy, time and commitment into it.

00:42:28:26 – 00:42:38:53
Unknown
A long time ago, when I was a, personal trainer, I had this guy, I did have a podcast for live radio, and I had and still, talk about his new book,

00:42:38:53 – 00:42:48:30
Unknown
and he was like, do what you love, whatever your exercise is, do find something that you love and do that, because if you love it, you’re going to do it.

00:42:48:30 – 00:43:07:40
Unknown
Well, in the example that he had was, let’s say you love to dance or you guys wanted to dance. So you sign up for dance class, right? And then you start learning. Then you learned that, hey, I can compete in this thing. I’m really getting that. Good. So what have you got to do to compete? You got to get your body right.

00:43:07:40 – 00:43:25:19
Unknown
You got costumes, you got heat, right? So you can, you know, flip up in the air or whatever the the trips and stuff like that for dancing. And then before you know it, you are doing something that you really, really love and you’re in the best shape of your life. So you do the same thing with the market and figure out what it is that you really like to do.

00:43:25:24 – 00:43:49:09
Unknown
What lights you up, think about the strategies that I’ve talked about and then go after it. Go get it. You can do this. And I bet you if you do that by January of 2026 when I open up the, marketing Academy again, you will be like one of the first people to be in there because you want to take your you already come up a level where you’re actually making consistent money.

00:43:49:20 – 00:43:58:03
Unknown
You want to go up another level and find out some marketing strategies you didn’t even know about or how to do these things. And I will be waiting on you. This.

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00:45:20:51 – 00:45:26:29
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I hope that you got a lot out of it, took a lot of notes, and you’re ready to go with your marketing.

00:45:26:29 – 00:45:29:33
Unknown
So let’s move on to the rest of this,

00:45:29:33 – 00:45:32:26
Unknown
this episode, because I’m so hype about it right now. All right.

00:45:32:26 – 00:45:35:07
Unknown
So my client Success Spotlight

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Unknown
for today is that Tiana okay.

00:45:38:17 – 00:45:54:56
Unknown
Now that’s the Tiana and I met in 2016 at a conference for, woman who would become my coach and stay with her for about a year, I think. But after Tiana and I kept in touch, I wanted to be on her website. Doctor Tiana back.

00:45:54:56 – 00:46:00:06
Unknown
And we, collaborate on so many things. She’s been through a lot of stuff.

00:46:00:06 – 00:46:24:51
Unknown
I’ve been through a lot of stuff. You know, we’ve been each other’s cheerleaders and helping each other out. She’s the best JD person, joint venture, collab partner or whatever that you can have. And she’s been out in a lot. If you look back on things that I’ve done, a lot of it’s been a podcast that not this new version yet, but this she will be and she is a member of the Marketing Academy.

00:46:24:51 – 00:46:43:02
Unknown
So shout out to you that, Tiana kind of, I want to say that she is a spiritual soul catalyst. I think that is her name now. So she deals more in spirituality, but she believes in God just like me. And we have these fiery conversations about, you know, what’s going on in the world and stuff like that.

00:46:43:02 – 00:46:47:28
Unknown
So, you know, go and check her out at Doctor diana.com.

00:46:47:28 – 00:46:58:16
Unknown
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Unknown
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00:47:20:01 – 00:47:28:02
Unknown
All right, now I always do this. I get to do the challenge. And then when I’m supposed to restate the challenge, I gotta tell you the challenge again. But here is the challenge.

00:47:28:02 – 00:47:35:37
Unknown
what I want you to do is go back over those questions that I presented to you, and that is, what do you like best? What, like,

00:47:35:37 – 00:47:48:57
Unknown
and the, marketing strategies that you want to use? I want to go back over those questions, answer them, and then I want you to take time to think about each and every one of them.

00:47:49:02 – 00:48:07:23
Unknown
You know, what do you like? What does like what are those strategies that I talked about, something that you’d like to find out more about, or you have some ideas you can do some searching. Whatever you decide, it’s okay, but you got to do something because remember, you have to market. You don’t market, you don’t get money, you don’t have money, you don’t have a business.

00:48:07:27 – 00:48:24:13
Unknown
So go over those questions and then create your plan. You know, what are you going to do? When are you going to do it? How are you going to get into it? Maybe, maybe, maybe you need a coach, or maybe you need a program. Or maybe you should, attend to a course. Maybe that’s a maybe you.

00:48:24:14 – 00:48:34:34
Unknown
I already have all the stuff that you need to do, what you need to do, and you haven’t done it yet. So then you need to just do it right. So to recap,

00:48:34:34 – 00:48:45:16
Unknown
number one marketing is a mindset. Make it positive and keep it strong. Number two, remember to pursue the 70% that most people aren’t even looking at.

00:48:45:16 – 00:49:05:57
Unknown
They’re only trying to get that 20% right. And then number three, do what you love and you no longer hate marketing. Instead, you look forward to doing whatever it is because you know when you do, it is going to bring you results. That’s how you grow to learn and love stuff. When I do it, something good happens. So I’m going to do some warm it right.

00:49:05:57 – 00:49:06:58
Unknown
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00:49:16:07 – 00:49:44:30
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All right. It’s time to get this book. And the book I’m talking about is a purpose driven entrepreneur daily prayer journal. I know that’s okay, but I love, you know, I love the people who have helped me in the book, the coauthors and Kane and and the books that I’ve done for others. This is a great journal because it has four things every day, has four different things that you need to concentrate on, and you can do them in just a few minutes.

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It talks about your business goal, your life goal, who you need to pray for because you know well, I always hear people say, oh, how will you pray for me and pray for my friend? And you know, do it because like we forget. So write it down. If you got prayed for somebody, write their name down so you can know.

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So you can actually say to God, I am praying for this person and put that into the universe and speak goodness and mercy and good health over their life. And then we have a scripture, of course, for every day. And these scriptures are I chose them because they are for purpose driven entrepreneurs like us. And there’s things in the Bible that talk about things that we need.

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And I have one on each day. And then you can put your take on that scripture and how it applies to you. It’s really quite.

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And there are nine different authors who are in the book,

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and you can get it by going to see us at corporation.com. Go to the store. It’s going to be right there. It’s also available on Amazon if you want to skip the website and go there.

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But if you go to the website, you’ll actually get to see the office in there. And I have a profile there.

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That means you to join me next episode, because I’m so excited about is that to Julie have to remember. And when I first started this podcast we’re talking about, she’s getting ready to premiere our website, we’re working on it, and now we’ve actually finished it.

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It is love. It is on the internet. And guess what? She’s already making money from it. Well,

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so next episode is the premiere of that Stress Busters, and I’m going to have that there. Doctor Julie, as you go through, I have her on here. She’s going to discuss how the website came about, how we worked together to create this masterpiece.

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That’s already making her life. And I am so proud of her, because I think we’ve been working together for about,

00:51:33:20 – 00:51:41:59
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I want to say maybe three years and some are 2 or 3 years. And when she first came to me, she was saying, I need to get money, I need to get my wife back up. And all that.

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And she just never could get a foothold on anything. And it just wasn’t working. It wasn’t bringing in her money. She was, of course, doing other things, but this project was not bringing her money. So she decided to stop

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and take a breather, figure out what she wants. She went back and got a couple of certifications, and she came out with doing something that she really believes in and love, and that is functional medicine.

00:52:08:53 – 00:52:28:50
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So she explains she is the queen of education. She explains about functional medicine, what it is, how it helps, how she provides the stuff for you to invest in, purchase, use. You know, she offer some of the times where you can just call her and talk to her, see what’s going on. She is amazing. So she’s going to be here.

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We’re going to be talking about the premiere of her website.

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So now, if this episode has been helpful to you, gave you some

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moments, make you think about things, I put you on a different trajectory than what you were on before. Please consider subscribing so you don’t miss it so you don’t miss anything at all. Or one single episode.

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And if you are already subscribed, how about leaving a review? I’m leaving a review a lot so that others can experience the same thing that you’re experiencing, and they know what’s going on, right? With getting traffic to the website, how to do their podcast, and all the things that I talk about. So please do that.

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I want you to know that I appreciate you.

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Thank you so much. And guess what we are we are getting to very close to 200 episodes of what this is, what, 87. So we’re very close. I got two plans. What kind of celebration that I’m going to have for the 200th episode. Right. So thank you so much and I will see you next time. Bye for now.

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