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Meet Our Global Panel:
- Susan Dzieduszycka-Suinat – President and CEO of U.S. Vote Foundation (Germany)
- Whitney Bateson – Digital Strategy for Wellness Professionals (Colombia)
- Crystal Covington – Marketing and Communications Expert (Namibia)
- David Wright – Full-Service Marketing Agency Owner (Mexico)
- Carol J. Dunlop – Web Designer and Host (Mexico)
Key Topics Discussed:
Maintaining Business Operations Abroad:
- Navigating time zones with clients
- Adapting to different cultural business practices
- Managing technology and communication challenges
- Handling banking and financial considerations
Lifestyle Adjustments:
- Transitioning from U.S. consumer culture
- Adapting to local customs and ways of life
- Learning new languages and communication styles
- Finding work-life balance in new environments
Practical Tips Shared:
- Solutions for maintaining U.S. phone numbers
- Managing international banking
- Handling mail and physical business needs
- Setting up reliable internet connections
- Working with clients across time zones
Resources Mentioned:
- Whitney Bates’ “Destination Freedom” Guide
- Carol Dunlop’s “Wow Website Planner”
- U.S. Vote Foundation Resources
- David Wright’s Marketing Consultation Offer
- Email Krystal for tips and Info on doing business on the continent
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Let’s head into the studio now with our hostess with the Mostess, Carol J. Dunlop.
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Hey, everyone, and welcome back. I’m Carol J. Dunlop. And while strategist and strategist and ten time Amazon best selling author. How are you doing? This is such a special episode coming up for me. And I want you to. I want you to feel the excitement that I feel when I was going through it. What I did was I became a panelist again.
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You know, I did it previously on the Women of Color website. And now I’ve taken your business global. I’m doing it again. I have a very special,
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moderator, my colleague and now client, Sabrina Hammons, from,
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Kingdom connections podcast agency. She did an awesome job, and I stated that I state that in the episode that the reason I wanted her to moderate was because when I told her that I moved to Mexico, she was like, I’ll just drop in and stay there for a while. I knew she would be the perfect person to do this, because I wanted someone with an enthusiasm and who’s going to really ask some good questions because, you know, we’re all inquiring minds.
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Hello there. I am so excited to be here. I am Sabrina Hammonds, and today we have an exciting panel. And we’re going to dive into how these amazing entrepreneurs have taken their business abroad. They’ve moved abroad and are still working their business.
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Not in the United States, but managing their business while living overseas. And so I’m super excited to be here.
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I am Sabrina Hammonds. I am the founder and owner of Kingdom Connections podcast and media agency, and I have the privilege and honor of being able to serve transformational leaders who have a sense of urgency to get their message out, and we get to do that through various media outlets. So I’m excited for us to dive in and get to know more from all of our amazing entrepreneurs.
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So we have today we have Susan Sue not who is in Germany. We have Whitney Bates, who is in Columbia. We have Krystal Covington, who is in Namibia, in Africa, David Wright, who is living in Mexico. Of course, the amazing Carol Dunlop, who’s also living in Mexico as of recently. And so I would like to bring up,
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Susan,
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Yes. Hi there. Susan, I would love for you to just take a moment and introduce yourself. Tell us a little bit about yourself and what you are doing. Okay.
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Susan. Ginger understood. Us now is the complete name. It’s, It’s a mouthful. You can call me Susan.
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I’m the president and CEO of U.S Vote Foundation and our overseas vote and U.S. Dot vote initiatives. So you can probably guess what I’m doing these days. It’s called the election, and it’s pretty much swallowed me home. But,
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I was glad to have this opportunity to take my mind off of some of those issues right now.
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Our number one objective,
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is to reach Americans all around the world and get them active,
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and voting.
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So this is a high time for us. And we do that, we express our mission and vision, which were which are one combined thing. That is, every citizen is a voter. Maybe they just haven’t discovered it yet.
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We express that through three different websites and,
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that’s that’s a long story, but,
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I did swear off a third child.
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I didn’t manage to swear off a third website, which came about this year, which is using, and that’s an exciting new endeavor. I invite you all.
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Yeah. So I’m looking forward to talking to you today. My background, by the way, is not in politics. Even though I’m working in elections. It’s more as a software developer bringing,
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public services forward.
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We are a nonprofit, so it’s a unique global business approach, perhaps amongst the midst of entrepreneurs on today. But my background is actually in technology. I come out of the software business, and I was in international software marketing prior to this. Wow. So I’m so excited to hear how you’re navigating life while living in Germany. So,
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so glad that you could be here.
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Thank you for pronouncing your name, by the way. I, I didn’t want to watch that, so I,
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I listened to your an interview from you, I guess on another, on another show so I can try to get your name correct. Thank you so much. That’s fine. Susan’s is fine for everyone. Who’s it is good. Okay, okay. Thank you.
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Susan,
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could we bring up Whitney?
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Whitney Bates. And who is in Columbia? Hello. Hello there. Whitney. How are you? I’m good. Sabrina, how are you? I’m doing well. Welcome to the show. Would you mind taking a moment and just introducing yourself? Tell us a little bit about you and where you are. Yeah. So,
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my name is Whitney Bates, and I’m the owner of Whitney Bates and Digital Strategy.
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I am a dietitian. My first career was dietitian. I worked in school nutrition.
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For for many years. But I really found that my passion really lied in helping other wellness professionals and dietitians get their word out. And,
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really just reach the masses. And I saw a gap in the resources, especially especially in, like, technology and design and communications and marketing for us,
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as, as health providers.
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So,
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I started my business to really just help dietitians and wellness professionals get their websites up online, really market themselves the way they should to really be competitive of and really show their value. And that’s something that I can do from wherever I am. I actually started my business while I decided to also move abroad.
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So they were two disconnected decisions, but one just happened right after another.
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And so it’s been kind of a crazy ride, but I don’t regret it for a second. I think it was the best thing I ever did.
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And I travel with my husband, who I actually met during my travels.
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And we are currently in Medellin, Colombia.
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This is like one of the longest stints that we’ve had in a while.
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We’re going to be here through January. So,
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I think it’s going to be like six months.
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But typically we’re traveling around every 2 to 3 months to new places. So, yeah. Wow, I love that. So you’re not just in Colombia. You’re all over. Yeah. We are like, we’ve been doing this for six years now. So we are looking for starting to find some more stable places, but we’re probably never going to officially settle down in any one spot, but maybe like to continue to travel, I love that, yeah, I love that.
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So glad that you’re here, Whitney. So nice to meet you.
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Hello there. Crystal.
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Hello. How are you?
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doing well. How are you?
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Oh, good. Now
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got it all together.
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glad that you can join us today. Could you take a minute and introduce yourself? Tell us a little bit about you and where you are in the world.
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Yes, I’m Crystal Covington. I am in Namibia.
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I moved here from Denver, Colorado,
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and,
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I have my background is in marketing and communications.
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And while we’re here, we’ve been,
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connecting people to the continent that that want to come over and helping people with starting businesses and,
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leading in, in that area.
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you also work with the people that are local to that area.
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My clients are still in the United States. I’m still building relationships with people here in the area.
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And then as people move from the from the states and come over here, then,
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we connect and I end up working with them too. So, so far all my clients are in the US or from the US and living here.
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Okay. All right. Well, I’m looking forward to getting to know more about what you are doing. So,
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thank you so much for being here.
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Yeah. Thank you. Sabrina.
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So can we bring
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David Wright.
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Hello. Thanks for having me. Hi there. David, how are you doing? Fantastic. And I’m much better. I probably have to be twins. Would you take a moment and introduce yourself? Tell us a little bit about yourself?
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Sure. I’m David B Wright. I founded,
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for a an award winning, full service marketing agency about,
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18 years ago, starting 2006.
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Originally, I was living online at the time, and I was,
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working on I was on my first book and self-published it. My first book was called Get a Job Your Guide to Making Successful Pyramids. And as self-published author, of course, I didn’t have a very big marketing budget behind me, so I ended up learning about SEO and implementing what I was learning.
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And next thing I knew, I was number one on Yahoo! For get a job book out of over a billion results, and then Bing and Google and,
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gradually it dawned on me that maybe I should start offering this as a service to business owners who need to get found by more of their perfect clients, patients or customers.
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And we’ve evolved since then into a full service marketing agency. We’ve won 46 awards in the past three years or so. And,
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I love what I do. I love the fact that it people and that I’m really good at what I can do anywhere. So your business comes from helping yourself first and figuring that out for yourself, and then now you get to pass that on to your clients?
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Absolutely. I love that I had the goals of financial freedom and time freedom at first, but then I didn’t realize until later that location freedom was going to be just as important. And now I live by the beach in Mexico, and I’ve been here for almost seven years now.
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Well, I look forward to hearing how that’s going over there in Mexico.
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I’m so glad that you can join us today.
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Thanks for having me.
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Yeah. So, Carol, can you come on up?
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Here. Go. Let me get my old self together. Yeah. Hey. How are you? I’m good. How are you, Carol? Over there. I am so, yeah. Yes. I’m here. We’re in Playa del Carmen, and this is awesome having everybody. I just wanted to say, first of all, thank you, Sabrina, for agreeing to be the moderator so I can just kind of sit back a little bit and be the panelist.
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And then I want to thank all of the guests that are here, because this was such a stunt to pull together, especially right now since I don’t have internet at my house, I am in a cork and spot. I was supposed to have a private room. I didn’t have this little bitty phone booth that looks like I’m going to turn into Superwoman, which I am.
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And,
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we just going to keep on rolling with it. So thank you everyone for being here. I just love it. Some of the people here, this is an I think everybody except for Sabrina, and this is the first time I’m actually seeing you face to face. So see how the online world is. I just love it. You know, we’re not trees.
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We’re not rooted. Wherever we are, we can do whatever we will. So just to tell you a little bit about our story, my husband and I were, you know, we’re from the States, from Atlanta. And we were sitting watching TV one day, and then the Supreme Court decided to overturn Roe versus Wade. And my husband looked at me and said, if they decide to do this is when at least if they decide to do that, I don’t think that I can live here in the States any longer when half of the population doesn’t have any rights.
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And I was like,
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okay, well, let me look at where we can go, because I’ve always wanted to live in a country where I could learn to speak Spanish,
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fluently. And I wanted to live by the beach, and I wanted to live abroad. So I get to do all three of those things in Playa del Carmen, where we are right now.
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We’re only a few blocks from the beach, and we started making our estate plan about two years ago, and I’ve been down the YouTube University road watching everybody. As a matter of fact, I think Susan, I saw her on YouTube. She was on this show,
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on this podcast called Almost Retired in Mexico. I was like, I got to get her on this.
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This is awesome. And I met Whitney in a in a web designer group that we’re in together, Web Design Pro. And she came and said, hey, I’m Whitney, I’m currently a nomad in Colombia, Colombia. And I was like, oh God, she’s going to be good. Let me get her out here. And then Crystal, I started watching her YouTube videos with her and her husband, her computer family.
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Ever, I’m telling you. And she’s like, in Namibia, Africa. And I’m like, oh, she’s got to be on here because I really wanted a wide range of people to be on hand. Show us that, hey, all of us can do whatever we want. And of course, David, I’ve known David for a few years. Never seen him kind of face to face or virtually face to face or whatever.
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But he was kind of the first person I reached out to when I said I was going to move to Mexico, he was like, well, come on down. What are you waiting on up there? So I’ve been just just talking with everybody, and I’m just so happy to see this come to fruition. And the very reason I wanted to do it is to show people that, yes, you can be an American citizen, you can live wherever you want.
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You can do whatever, whatever you want, and you can still make money. So that’s me and my story. I’m sure we’ll talk a little bit about some other things, but that’s what I got going right now. I love it, it sounds like such an adventure. It definitely is. Definitely. And I’m telling you. Well, all right, I think with the election at hand, I would love to start off with the question regarding voting and your right to vote as an overseer and how
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how are we navigating?
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How are you guys navigating through that? Now, I know, Susan, this is your area. So maybe you could just share a little bit about,
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about that as we get started. It would be my greatest pleasure. Of course, you’ve got my favorite topic up first. So thank you very much. And I hope all of you have done the one thing that you need to do as an overseas citizen, and that is to fill out the one single form that will do two things simultaneously.
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It will both register you as an overseas voter and request your overseas absentee ballot. And if you’re wondering where that is, you can find it on U.S Vote foundation.org. If you’ve never voted from abroad before and you’re wondering, you know how to get started. We have,
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a special tool that we produced this year is called the Voter Journey Map, and it’s on our U.S. Dot vote website, which is the new one, which is all about communications.
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And if you go through the voter journey map, you can choose the overseas path. It’s just a walk through the park to figure out how to vote this year, and you’ll come out of it with a checklist and all the links for your state, where to go, what to do in the order that suits you, and without the things that you don’t need, you know?
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So that’s a great way to start. Also,
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just just to give you an idea,
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I think it’s important that overseas citizens know a lot of this program has been modernized. I started 20 years ago. I would say that this business, found me. I was already abroad working as a software executive. I went to vote. It was 2004.
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I was handed a,
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cardstock paper form and a 500 page instruction book, which for a software executive is like, wow, this is a great opportunity to change things. And in the US you can if you comply with the rules, you can make things better. So I started a nonprofit. Needless to say, it was our our legacy is overseas voting and it was overseas vote foundation.org.
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That’s still a number one place where our voters go.
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We reinvented that website this year.
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In that process, I ended up involved in reform. And I’m happy to tell you all that that reform has occurred. And it makes the process for you now, as an overseas voter today a lot easier. You could go on the site, you could register and request your ballot, apply your signature to the form, send it to your election office right through our system in one session.
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There’s some states that don’t allow it. In that case, it wouldn’t be offered and you’d have to download it and print it. But then there are usually still quite a few options, including,
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scanning and adding, attaching it to an email to get the request. And that’s what you need to do. Now, the other thing that’s really great about the system, you can, as an overseas voter, choose either receive your ballot on paper or online.
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And if you’re in Mexico, I know you’re going to choose online, you’re going to get it next week. You’re going to fill it out and send it back by Fedex, and you’re going to get your vote in. So there there’s so much more I could tell you about, but it’s really one of the best voting programs that we’ve got in America.
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And I encourage you all to try it. Well thank you. So who in here has already navigated through voting from being overseas? And you can share about what that’s been like? Well, we just went through it. I will say that we finally, you know, bit the bullet and went went for it this year.
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In years past, it was it I think there’s also I’ll just say this and being open about just the, the,
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purpose of this panel is that, you know, the U.S doesn’t like it when you don’t have like a location, like an actual physical home, like the banks don’t really like it, like there’s lots of,
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red tape.
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And so sometimes,
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starting to do things that are just kind of putting you in certain,
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situations with,
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where, where is your physical address, where is your mailing address? And all of those kinds of things can feel a little sticky and a little uncomfortable. I just I just have to say,
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I think that’s one of the biggest challenge is,
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that we’ve faced is just like, where is that physical, permanent home location in the US, even though we don’t live in the US anymore?
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Unknown
And, you know, if you have family in places and that’s wonderful. But,
00:21:26:48 – 00:21:38:14
Unknown
we know that there’s tax implications in certain states versus others, and maybe that’s not always the best choice. But anyway, I say all that to say we finally push through all of that and said, okay, we’re we’re going to do it. And,
00:21:38:14 – 00:21:41:45
Unknown
yeah, I will say, I don’t think it’s been terribly difficult.
00:21:41:50 – 00:21:45:45
Unknown
We did the request. It got mailed. Emailed to us.
00:21:45:45 – 00:21:47:03
Unknown
We are going to
00:21:47:03 – 00:21:49:47
Unknown
fax back. I had to print it out and,
00:21:49:47 – 00:21:54:19
Unknown
sign it, although I will check out your website next time. She said, but,
00:21:54:19 – 00:22:01:45
Unknown
so. Yeah. And then it’s just going to be fax back so we don’t have to mail anything and worry that there’s going to be postage delays, postal delays and, and all of that.
00:22:01:45 – 00:22:02:22
Unknown
So,
00:22:02:22 – 00:22:05:52
Unknown
honestly, it was surprisingly simple.
00:22:05:52 – 00:22:23:02
Unknown
Yeah. Can I add just a couple things? I guess I really want to address that. You do not have to have a current address or own property or anything in the U.S to vote from abroad. You just need to put in the address of where you last resided. That’s your voting residence address.
00:22:23:02 – 00:22:51:33
Unknown
It’s called your address for voting purposes or as I said, voting residence address. You do not have to have any. You won’t receive mail there. They know by using the form that you are abroad. Then you put in your address where you are abroad. And as I said, you can receive your ballot online. As for taxes, yes, it’s a tragedy that America has registered residence based taxation or does not have residence based taxation.
00:22:51:33 – 00:22:54:00
Unknown
We follow our citizens wherever
00:22:54:00 – 00:23:15:45
Unknown
they go. I would highly advise if you are indefinitely abroad and you don’t, you’re uncertain about when you’re going to go back. If ever, just vote for the federal level. That’s president, vice president, U.S. Senate in the U.S. House. If they’re sitting in Washington, that’s the race to vote. You can always ignore offices you don’t want to vote for.
00:23:15:50 – 00:23:29:10
Unknown
I would not vote for governor on down because, like you said, you’re no longer living in that state. You don’t want to implicate yourself for state taxes. Don’t vote those offices. Leave that part of the ballot blank. That’s perfectly fine.
00:23:29:10 – 00:23:39:35
Unknown
That’s an interesting point, because that is the difficulty some states, like they’ll keep taxing you until you’ve really proven you’ve moved out of that place, and it just gets complicated.
00:23:39:40 – 00:23:54:49
Unknown
Yeah, that’s not the point of all this. But that’s a really good point. Okay. Really a disaster for us. That is. Yeah. Yeah. So David, if you like to chime in about how what your experience has been like.
00:23:54:49 – 00:23:59:14
Unknown
Actually, my experience was over 20 years ago when I was living in Tokyo.
00:23:59:19 – 00:24:04:47
Unknown
So the processes have changed a bit since then.
00:24:04:52 – 00:24:05:14
Unknown
But,
00:24:05:14 – 00:24:11:27
Unknown
went ahead and did it and got it done. Just did what it took to get it done. Yeah. It sounds like,
00:24:11:27 – 00:24:22:49
Unknown
if you’re oh, if you’re overseas or you’re abroad, you need to connect with Susan because I bet she’s got some resources that can walk you through the process. Crystal, have you had any experiences?
00:24:23:24 – 00:24:32:18
Unknown
I’ve registered and my ballot is in my email box, but I haven’t opened it to see what is the requirement for what I’m supposed to do with it yet, but it’s in there.
00:24:32:41 – 00:24:39:43
Unknown
Well, just get it back as soon as possible. Print it out, get it, get it out there. It’s got to make its way back.
00:24:39:43 – 00:24:53:45
Unknown
I was going to say I’m taking a radical move. We are flying to Atlanta next Thursday to vote early and in person, because in Georgia, I do not trust that voter suppression state at all.
00:24:54:00 – 00:25:16:10
Unknown
So we’re going to be in the line in person voting, and I’m going to make my voice heard. And then after that, I will use Susan from now on, because we had already planned that, because I was just scared to death. What if I leave? What if they cancel my vote because Georgia is known for anti and off that roll any time they want and they’ve done it before, so I will.
00:25:16:21 – 00:25:38:41
Unknown
And and I’m so glad that God has blessed us so we can go early because if there’s anything if they got a hit, oh she may not be on the soil, I can go fix it before actual date. So that’s what I’m doing. Well, good for you. Yeah, I think it’s a good reminder for everyone to vote because every vote does count.
00:25:38:45 – 00:25:54:31
Unknown
Yeah. Whether you’re in the US or you’re living abroad. Vote. I think that’s yeah, be sure that you vote. And I think that also brings us to our next question, which is adaptability. And having to adapt. I know that,
00:25:54:31 – 00:26:04:21
Unknown
I don’t know if all of you are in places where you feel like time is just so different, where it just feels like a very slow pace of life.
00:26:04:26 – 00:26:12:43
Unknown
But I’ve heard from different people who have been to Africa, especially that they’ll get to it when they get to it. And so,
00:26:12:43 – 00:26:26:06
Unknown
and I know Carol has mentioned the time does not operate the same way. People just don’t do things like we do in the US. And so I would just love to hear how have you had to adapt?
00:26:26:06 – 00:26:32:22
Unknown
What are some specific things that you feel like you’ve really had to adjust to being abroad?
00:26:32:22 – 00:26:36:37
Unknown
David, would you like to start us off? Sure.
00:26:36:37 – 00:26:42:19
Unknown
For one thing, obviously the the sense of timing of the emergency is very different. And,
00:26:42:19 – 00:26:47:38
Unknown
Mexico does not always mean tomorrow. It might mean the next day. It might mean this week.
00:26:47:38 – 00:26:59:26
Unknown
Might be next week. So trying to get as specific as possible with whoever’s providing whatever service you need, whether it’s your plumber, electrician, which oddly enough, are usually the same person here.
00:26:59:26 – 00:27:00:11
Unknown
Or,
00:27:00:11 – 00:27:02:01
Unknown
mechanic or whatever it might be.
00:27:02:01 – 00:27:03:50
Unknown
And another big thing is,
00:27:03:50 – 00:27:05:45
Unknown
at least learning the basics of the language.
00:27:05:45 – 00:27:18:17
Unknown
I was fortunate because I had, studied Spanish in high school and college and then took it about as far as I could take it to school and switched over to learning Japanese and probably forgot a lot of my Spanish.
00:27:18:17 – 00:27:20:45
Unknown
But once I moved down here, I started picking it up again. And,
00:27:20:45 – 00:27:34:15
Unknown
now I’m reasonably fluent. Not quite perfect, but I’m actually, I’ve actually been told people who know me here is the gringo who speak Spanish. Is there are people here who,
00:27:34:15 – 00:27:42:08
Unknown
have lived here for 15, 18, 20 years and still don’t speak beyond the basics of all of the earth.
00:27:42:13 – 00:27:43:41
Unknown
Hello. Good day. Or,
00:27:43:41 – 00:28:00:24
Unknown
if I check these things like that. But I think that that’s the way I look at learning that language is it’s not just learning another way to say something. It’s learning a new, a different way of looking at the world. And it’s important to you to be a representative of your own country, to,
00:28:00:24 – 00:28:05:20
Unknown
make people feel like you’re making the effort to understand their way of looking at the world as well.
00:28:05:31 – 00:28:22:21
Unknown
I have to agree. I want to jump in here really quickly because I can, I guess, know. But I wanted to say, David, I totally feel you on that last night we had our water delivered and fouled out. No, do not drink the water that comes out of the faucet in Mexico. Just just don’t even do it.
00:28:22:21 – 00:28:39:49
Unknown
Yeah. No, you know, don’t do it. So we have to order water in a bottle. And I had messaged the guy to say, hey, that, you know, did you forget or whatever. He goes, no, no, they’re at this is like 730 or not. No, no, that they’re right now. And this was in Spanish translating into Spanish. I was like, okay.
00:28:40:03 – 00:28:50:53
Unknown
So they they came across and they didn’t speak a lick of English at all. And I barely speak any Spanish. You know, I’m learning more and more and more. So we get up to our,
00:28:50:53 – 00:29:00:29
Unknown
condo door and I brought the two empty bottles, and I was like, yeah, these empties, right? And they were just so fascinating. Empty, empty, empty.
00:29:00:29 – 00:29:19:06
Unknown
They were trying to talk to me in English and learning that word. And I was like, well, I’d say empty. Empty and, Spanish. And Lord knows I forgot it now. But they were telling me. So we’re standing up there conversing back and forth. And I think that’s the beauty of everything just being open, willing to learn, willing to listen.
00:29:19:10 – 00:29:44:19
Unknown
I think anybody appreciates that just as much as you going out there and being able to speak anything, because I’ve found that, you know, I’m struggling and a lot of hand gestures will, you know, will help you. Plus Google Translate, of course, but if you’re just open to it, they want to learn your language as much as you want to learn their language, because even though we’re in Playa del Carmen right here, English is not as prevalent as you think it would be.
00:29:44:24 – 00:29:46:38
Unknown
So.
00:29:46:38 – 00:29:52:30
Unknown
What about you, Crystal? I would love to hear the the ways you’ve adapted in Africa.
00:29:52:30 – 00:29:59:15
Unknown
So the thing that came to my head when you said that question was the thing that I’m dealing with right now, like,
00:29:59:15 – 00:30:07:05
Unknown
which is ordering things I was obsessed with, not obsessed, but I didn’t like to leave my house. I like to order everything to me.
00:30:07:05 – 00:30:08:42
Unknown
There is no,
00:30:08:42 – 00:30:16:21
Unknown
we’re not in the downtown, so I’m not sure if it works differently downtown, but they don’t deliver to my door.
00:30:16:21 – 00:30:34:19
Unknown
People have what? What is a P.O. Box? And so they give me a slip, and I have to go to go pick things up. And then there are really high duty fees. So in the United States, we have a really open situation with being able to have things delivered from other countries.
00:30:34:19 – 00:30:43:33
Unknown
So I used to get packages, you know, you can order on Etsy and it can be coming from Bulgaria. I have a few of my favorite dresses that are from Bulgaria or Ukraine,
00:30:43:33 – 00:30:46:12
Unknown
because they make really nice things on Etsy. And then
00:30:46:12 – 00:30:48:22
Unknown
a lot of packages came from China.
00:30:48:22 – 00:30:50:34
Unknown
And I never had a duty in my life.
00:30:50:34 – 00:31:02:14
Unknown
I didn’t even know that was a thing. And and now when I get a package. So I have one that came, I, I saw an ad on Facebook. I said, okay, I’m going to take the chance again because I really want these barefoot,
00:31:02:14 – 00:31:08:16
Unknown
grounding shoes. So I bought some barefoot grounding shoes that are on their way and,
00:31:08:16 – 00:31:14:45
Unknown
in advance of them sending the package, they send me a clearance document and then some other document.
00:31:14:50 – 00:31:24:08
Unknown
That all looks like it’s business to business. It looks like it’s made for if you are importing goods to resell, but it’s just some shoes I bought,
00:31:24:08 – 00:31:27:53
Unknown
I got to fill these out, and then I have to give them the receipt and,
00:31:27:53 – 00:31:34:50
Unknown
proof that it came out of my bank at the cost that I say it was, and the receipt says so.
00:31:34:50 – 00:31:59:06
Unknown
It’s a lot. And then I got to go pick it up. And when I pick it up, the duty fee is like 60%. So I really wanted these shoes. They don’t sell grounding barefoot shoes here. So they were $187. And so I’m going to pay 100 and something more U.S. dollars for whatever the duty, the ticket me it’s expensive.
00:31:59:10 – 00:32:04:30
Unknown
So you got to really want things and and so my Amazon habit is dead.
00:32:04:30 – 00:32:06:57
Unknown
No more.
00:32:06:57 – 00:32:09:17
Unknown
I bet it is. Oh my goodness. So, no,
00:32:09:17 – 00:32:14:00
Unknown
like ordering your groceries and going them and picking them up, like what we do here?
00:32:14:00 – 00:32:22:50
Unknown
No. So they do have one store that delivers groceries, and I’m again, I’m not downtown. So there are a few differences downtown.
00:32:22:50 – 00:32:35:19
Unknown
They might be more delivery options, but there’s one grocer that comes out here and they don’t bring everything. They have certain things that they sell. So I’ve had to get used to just going to the store to get what I want.
00:32:35:19 – 00:32:41:08
Unknown
And they’ve, they’ve gotten used to, I order every other week for I just stack up the closet with it.
00:32:41:08 – 00:32:43:41
Unknown
But it’s it’s very different.
00:32:43:41 – 00:32:54:12
Unknown
I did I was Instacart, I was Grubhub, I was everything came to if I didn’t feel like cooking, it was something coming at the door that day.
00:32:54:12 – 00:32:57:48
Unknown
So now I cook everything, too. I’ve learned to cook everything.
00:32:57:48 – 00:33:06:16
Unknown
Yeah, I would imagine that would be a big adjustment. I think we we probably order from Amazon regularly, so I can’t imagine not having access to that.
00:33:06:16 – 00:33:22:56
Unknown
You have to really want something like you said. What about you, Whitney? I see you shaking your head over there, nodding your head. Yeah, I mean, it’s it’s I think that the, the constant travel for us has also forced us because we just have three suitcases between the two of us. My husband and I,
00:33:22:56 – 00:33:23:58
Unknown
with some carry ons.
00:33:23:58 – 00:33:24:49
Unknown
So,
00:33:24:49 – 00:33:27:22
Unknown
you just can’t. You can’t have things,
00:33:27:22 – 00:33:39:41
Unknown
more than what already fits in the suitcase, or you have to let go of something else. And honestly, I have appreciated so much letting go of the consumerism that is so rampant in the United States.
00:33:39:41 – 00:33:43:39
Unknown
When I go back, I just I don’t feel comfortable there,
00:33:43:39 – 00:33:44:17
Unknown
anymore.
00:33:44:17 – 00:34:08:06
Unknown
I and, you know, I, I think I’m probably on an extreme, like, I wear the same clothes that I’ve had for like, ten years sometimes, you know, I rotate a few things, but I, I the desire to shop and to buy things has, has left me. And I’ve realized that that was just something that was created because it’s so easy to access things in the United States, and it’s so easy to get these things, and everyone’s doing it.
00:34:08:06 – 00:34:27:23
Unknown
And you see the ads on, I mean, even TikTok, like there’s no ads here in Columbia. But I go back in this United States, every other, you know, scroll is a light therapy mask or a collagen mask or like whatever the case may be. And it’s just there’s just so much of that. And so it’s really refreshing to kind of just let go of that.
00:34:27:23 – 00:34:43:41
Unknown
And it is tough. It can be really tough to not have the things that you see other people having. And you do have to let go of those things. And I’ll be honest, like, we are getting spoiled again here in Colombia, like they imagine they have delivery for everything.
00:34:43:41 – 00:34:46:39
Unknown
It’s super convenient. But then we’ve lived in places.
00:34:46:39 – 00:34:51:53
Unknown
I mean, we, we were in Mauritius during the pandemic as well. It’s an island off the coast of,
00:34:51:53 – 00:34:56:06
Unknown
Africa, past Madagascar, on the Indian Ocean. So it’s very small.
00:34:56:06 – 00:35:07:09
Unknown
And we didn’t have a car. A lot of the places that we travel to, like we’re not renting cars and whatever. And our neighbors were just flabbergasted that we would walk to the grocery store to get our groceries and come back.
00:35:07:14 – 00:35:28:18
Unknown
And it’s just those kinds of things where it’s like, yeah, it’s, you know, it’s not convenient, it’s not super great, but it just kind of forces you to be adaptable and to just know that no matter where you’re dropped, you’re going to be okay because you figured it out. And it’s there’s more important things in life, like seeing the world and experiencing these new cultures.
00:35:28:23 – 00:35:33:12
Unknown
Then, you know, having having those niceties that maybe were, were used to,
00:35:33:12 – 00:35:35:00
Unknown
so that’s that’s how I feel about it.
00:35:35:00 – 00:35:45:51
Unknown
Honestly, that sounds very freeing to me. I think there’s. Yeah. Yeah. What about you, Susan? What what have you had to adapt to or make changes, adjust?
00:35:45:51 – 00:35:47:18
Unknown
I think I’m going to echo
00:35:47:18 – 00:35:49:58
Unknown
what my colleagues here have said.
00:35:50:03 – 00:36:14:55
Unknown
And also add in that when I moved abroad, it was a very conscious choice and I was ready for change. I wanted to leave a country where people only spoke one language. I wanted to try new ways of doing things. I wanted to experience what it felt like to be close to a community. I mean, at first I lived in Paris and,
00:36:14:55 – 00:36:19:57
Unknown
I, I wouldn’t have gotten the job if I hadn’t made a real effort to,
00:36:19:57 – 00:36:25:00
Unknown
learn French and kind of try to keep it up, at least to a certain level.
00:36:25:05 – 00:36:49:44
Unknown
And then I really threw myself into it. And I will just say that David is absolutely right. You’re never going to feel comfortable in the new culture. You’re not going to understand them. You’re not the way a sentences phrase is. The order of the words is a way of thinking that it’s essential to understanding where you are and really experiencing it fully.
00:36:49:44 – 00:37:01:44
Unknown
And I love that opportunity. And so I went for it fully. I became fluent in French and fortunately lived on the market street, so shopping every day was just part of being there.
00:37:01:44 – 00:37:21:05
Unknown
I kind of swore off Amazon, you know, ages ago, I go to the market now I’m in Germany. In Bavaria, I take every opportunity to do things the way they do them here, and to connect with the people in the village where I live.
00:37:21:05 – 00:37:39:40
Unknown
And it can be really, if you think of it, some people here feel like it’s really stultifying or just smothering, but I, I actually like it. I mean, everybody’s friendly when you’re friendly to them, and I’m sure you’ve all had that same experience that they can be harder on themselves in a foreign country than you would ever be on them.
00:37:39:45 – 00:37:56:16
Unknown
So I go to the local market once a week, and I walk my dog and I talk to the other dog owners, and I do all those things that kind of balance out all the work I do, and to just get to know my neighbors and my community. And I love the differences. I, you know, and I feel like we can pick and choose.
00:37:56:16 – 00:38:08:43
Unknown
We’re so lucky. We can say, I like doing this the way Americans do it. I like doing this way. French do it. I like doing this the way wherever I am is doing it and putting that together to make our lives here,
00:38:08:43 – 00:38:16:32
Unknown
with the perspective. Looking back, sometimes it feels like, you know, we’re the lucky ones because we got to have that experience of living in the US.
00:38:16:32 – 00:38:19:19
Unknown
We get the freedom of being a U.S. citizen.
00:38:19:19 – 00:38:40:59
Unknown
And there are difficulties, as Whitney was saying, there really are complications. However, we can navigate them. And, yeah, I think in the in the long run, we have this perspective of looking back and we have an idea of, you know, how our country, we are the ambassadors for our country, whether we want to be or not.
00:38:41:04 – 00:38:45:52
Unknown
We are their informal ambassadors. It’s so great that we’re at boardrooms around the world,
00:38:45:52 – 00:39:13:15
Unknown
or in boardrooms and at the table with, you know, other citizens abroad, but also with people in the country where we are our host country and we are the guests. So for me, it’s just all the pleasure every single day. I really love it, I love that I think that’s beautiful, being able to experience and be immersed in a different culture and realize, wait a minute, not everybody does things the way that we do here in the US.
00:39:13:15 – 00:39:42:41
Unknown
And so I think that’s a really amazing experience. Now, all of you shared things that are mostly related to personal like personal lives. But I know that your move has had to affect and impact your businesses because you’re not new business owners. You’ve been building and growing a business. So what are some of the things that you’ve had to maybe pivot or challenges you’ve had to overcome in building and growing your business and being in another country?
00:39:42:41 – 00:40:00:12
Unknown
Who would like to to chime in first, I see Whitney. I see you shaking your head, nodding your head. Yeah, I, I feel like it’s just it’s a constant and I will I will echo first I just want to say, Susan, I, I totally agree with you. I will also say that I’m sure you all will agree that it also is extremely challenging.
00:40:00:12 – 00:40:05:10
Unknown
A lot of these times in learning these cultures and these new places and
00:40:05:10 – 00:40:15:02
Unknown
especially to if you’re moving around like I am, you’re finding a new hairdresser, a new dentist, a new grocery store, what do they call the grocery store? You know, it’s all these experiences that,
00:40:15:02 – 00:40:20:48
Unknown
are just navigation. So it’s both a joy. And it’s also just a constant stress, too.
00:40:20:58 – 00:40:22:31
Unknown
But it’s, you know, it’s it’s worth it.
00:40:22:31 – 00:40:25:34
Unknown
The joys outweigh it. And so when it comes to business,
00:40:25:34 – 00:40:41:50
Unknown
one of the things for me and this is just kind of like tactical stuff is like, I really like working from home. And so when we’re looking for we’re staying in Airbnbs wherever we go. Sometimes we’re trying to look for long term leases, but that can be just tough to find and find.
00:40:41:50 – 00:40:48:09
Unknown
You know, the beauty of Airbnb is that there are reviews, there’s great photos, the payment options are easy.
00:40:48:09 – 00:40:51:55
Unknown
Whereas finding a long term rental off of a realty website,
00:40:51:55 – 00:41:02:33
Unknown
sometimes you just don’t know what you’re going to get and you don’t know until you’re getting there. You know, we were renting a place in Kuala Lumpur, and we just got a video phone to walk through, and then surprise, surprise, half the appliances don’t work.
00:41:02:33 – 00:41:10:35
Unknown
When we got there and we had signed a three month lease. So you just do you deal with it, you know, and it was it was workable enough that we stayed.
00:41:10:35 – 00:41:15:06
Unknown
But we will sometimes buy death. So I’m sitting at a bought desk.
00:41:15:06 – 00:41:24:04
Unknown
We’re here for multiple months, so spending $100 from my business to buy a desk and have an office chair so I can be comfortable is worth it to me.
00:41:24:04 – 00:41:28:33
Unknown
And I’m not spending that money on a co-working space or whatnot.
00:41:28:33 – 00:41:44:52
Unknown
So I think doing the things that are going to make your work comfortable and being both adaptable, but then also trying to find senses of normalcy whenever you can or have routines if you’re switching locations is really important.
00:41:44:52 – 00:41:49:42
Unknown
And then the last thing I’ll say is just obviously the time zone being such a challenge.
00:41:49:42 – 00:41:58:33
Unknown
If you’re moving time zones all the time or David, you know, working from Tokyo, like I just hats off to you because I worked from Japan,
00:41:58:33 – 00:42:04:06
Unknown
late last year and it. Oh, you know, it’s worth it because it’s just wonderful there.
00:42:04:06 – 00:42:06:40
Unknown
And you do it, but then also it’s just,
00:42:06:40 – 00:42:12:45
Unknown
it’s challenging. So I found for myself I didn’t want my business to keep me in a certain location.
00:42:12:45 – 00:42:23:06
Unknown
I was really like, no, I should be able to work wherever I want, you know? But then I have to come to terms with, like, well, I don’t like doing calls at ten, 11, 12:12 a.m.
00:42:23:06 – 00:42:32:06
Unknown
and especially for me, I do launches in my business. And so I really need to be available for multiple hours across the day for sales inquiries and things like that.
00:42:32:06 – 00:42:35:33
Unknown
And when you have such a small overlap, it makes sales hard.
00:42:35:33 – 00:42:50:20
Unknown
Especially so, you know, I feel like I’m always figuring it out and always working it out. So I don’t think I have the solution. It’s just constantly learning and adapting and saying, okay, you know what? That was challenging. Maybe I’m going to do something different the next time.
00:42:50:25 – 00:43:08:09
Unknown
So I would imagine time zone would be something that would be very big. Yeah, I’m going to chime in on that and just say, that was when I was going to bring up as the most challenging thing.
00:43:08:09 – 00:43:12:02
Unknown
I agree, I don’t want to work at living at night. It ruins my life.
00:43:12:02 – 00:43:16:35
Unknown
But not an understatement. Fortunately.
00:43:16:40 – 00:43:28:15
Unknown
Fortunately, what I’ve noticed over time is that I’m always saying, can we meet in your morning? And they have now. I mean, my whole team,
00:43:28:15 – 00:43:39:30
Unknown
they’re all really used to that. And everyone that I work with on a regular basis. And then the minute I meet someone new and we’re going to set up a meeting, it’s can we meet in your morning?
00:43:39:35 – 00:43:49:17
Unknown
And it’s just incredible how accommodating people are over time. They never expect anything else, and I’m not afraid to ask for it.
00:43:49:17 – 00:44:10:50
Unknown
I think we have to ask for things, being in a nonprofit with a very limited budget, I’ve really had to learn to ask. So that’s how I did it. A little point about the time difference also is that, we get used to it so much the it’s easier for us to do the math in our heads to figure out what it’s going to be.
00:44:10:54 – 00:44:12:01
Unknown
As long as I know there are times,
00:44:12:01 – 00:44:32:29
Unknown
and like last year, Mexico abolished the savings time, so we no longer change times twice a year, whereas yeah, that’s. Yeah, that’s why I’m having all the issues. It’s just one hour. But I keep talking to ten, 11, one, two, three. Exactly. Yeah. And you’re there. But our different as well I know it’s so crazy.
00:44:32:29 – 00:44:45:33
Unknown
So I just I think I’ve been hearing that at all. Right. I just ask people what time is it. They’re right now where you are. And then I look at my clock and I’m like, okay, we can we can deal with this. But Time Zone definitely is,
00:44:45:33 – 00:44:50:06
Unknown
one of those things. David, I thought you were like down the street from me or something like an hour or so.
00:44:50:08 – 00:45:11:00
Unknown
Is that work progress? You’re in Progresso, right? I mean, Progresso, which is about 30 minutes North America. Oh, okay. You’re on the other side. You’re on the other side. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. So we just got grazed by the hurricane, and thankfully it veered a little bit north. So the damage here was fairly minimal. But there were some places that got destroyed, some houses some years and dogs and so on.
00:45:11:04 – 00:45:11:30
Unknown
But,
00:45:11:30 – 00:45:37:07
Unknown
my house, very minimal. The dogs are fine. Good deal, good deal. What about you, Crystal? I know that you can’t just order things for your business like you want. But what? What other things? Like how has it affected your business? Well, I mean, I feel like I would just mirror what everybody else has said. So we have for example, I had have a sales call somebody, I asked somebody, what?
00:45:37:07 – 00:45:54:19
Unknown
What time can you meet me? And the only time she has is after 330 any of the days. And so that means I think I haven’t looked it up. I think it could be hours into my night. So it might be 9 or 10, I don’t know.
00:45:54:19 – 00:46:00:17
Unknown
I haven’t checked, but I think she’s in mountain time, so it’s going to be a big difference.
00:46:00:22 – 00:46:10:10
Unknown
So whatever it it means for me, I just have to handle it. So sometimes I might have to do 11:00 calls or something. When I was in the United States, I was doing,
00:46:10:10 – 00:46:15:31
Unknown
late night calls to talk to people here in, in Namibia so that,
00:46:15:31 – 00:46:17:06
Unknown
I could get things done,
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Unknown
during their mornings and my night.
00:46:19:30 – 00:46:36:07
Unknown
So I don’t I still don’t have it in my head. I use online calculators, but there’s that. And then there’s the fact that I did everything online. I very I barely ever used my phone and I had to learn to pick up my phone now. So,
00:46:36:07 – 00:46:41:50
Unknown
people do business on the phone here and they don’t they don’t answer emails quickly,
00:46:41:50 – 00:46:44:19
Unknown
or prioritize them a whole lot.
00:46:44:24 – 00:46:52:07
Unknown
It might take a very long time to get an email response, if at all. So there are things where I’ve tried to,
00:46:52:07 – 00:46:58:08
Unknown
order. There is a store here in another city. I tried to ask them, can I order something there? And,
00:46:58:08 – 00:47:02:07
Unknown
the email thread just dropped and I’ve asked, hey, are you there? Hey, are you there?
00:47:02:07 – 00:47:04:11
Unknown
And nobody there?
00:47:04:11 – 00:47:16:22
Unknown
There’s been just a lot of things like that where things will just drop off or, like, I needed somebody to come and fix. I have a, a fireplace, and I needed somebody to come and chimney sweep, and they said, okay,
00:47:16:22 – 00:47:21:56
Unknown
when we’re over in your area will reach out. It’s a WhatsApp conversation, and I’m going, hey, are you ever going to be here?
00:47:21:56 – 00:47:26:12
Unknown
Oh, yeah. Someday. Someday. So? So
00:47:26:12 – 00:47:44:09
Unknown
it’s just in the United States. I’m used to people hustling me for everything. So I didn’t answer my phone because every phone call was a sales call, and I. I knew people responded to email pretty well, so we could always have a scheduled time or something like that.
00:47:44:09 – 00:47:49:46
Unknown
And everything’s just quite different, even down to the fact that you must have WhatsApp.
00:47:49:50 – 00:48:06:39
Unknown
When I have tried to send people a picture in the text message, the text messages don’t do that. You do that on WhatsApp. And so everything is is like two different apps. So messaging is in WhatsApp. Everybody uses that but that everybody’s buying airtime.
00:48:06:39 – 00:48:14:12
Unknown
So you buy prepaid airtime instead of having plans. So I’ve had to get used to just an abundance of,
00:48:14:12 – 00:48:16:34
Unknown
different ways of living life.
00:48:16:34 – 00:48:20:34
Unknown
And different ways of doing business. So even down to,
00:48:20:34 – 00:48:45:16
Unknown
the last thing I’ll mention because somebody recently asked me is, how do you use your phone? So I still have my U.S number on the same phone. I use something called Tello and I have an eSIM, and I use Wi-Fi for my calling so that people can call me on my old number and using the Wi-Fi, I can answer it, or I can call out and so I can still have my U.S number.
00:48:45:16 – 00:48:50:02
Unknown
And that was a big deal, as I had actually come here with a second phone,
00:48:50:02 – 00:48:54:36
Unknown
because I didn’t know and I had a U.S plan on the one phone with
00:48:54:36 – 00:48:59:12
Unknown
Xfinity Mobile. And then I had this other phone where I put the SIM in there from,
00:48:59:12 – 00:49:03:30
Unknown
Namibia. And now I have just the one phone with both.
00:49:03:35 – 00:49:22:40
Unknown
And that changed my life when I could get just the one phone and stop looking at to. But my goodness, it is an A, it is just it. You have to switch your brain and just say nothing will be normal and just start from zero. Yeah, figuring out the tech and the phone number.
00:49:22:40 – 00:49:28:42
Unknown
A couple of years ago when I started traveling, I mean, like, brought me to my knees, like, it was just it was very stressful.
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Unknown
Like, what am I,
00:49:29:18 – 00:49:40:05
Unknown
running a business? I don’t not not that many people don’t call me, but I didn’t want to miss phone calls. And so, you know, my solution is, is Google Fi.
00:49:40:05 – 00:49:41:56
Unknown
Even though they do cut you off from,
00:49:41:56 – 00:49:51:17
Unknown
roaming data if you’re outside the US too much. But I solely just pay for that, that number and I do get calls, but then, yeah, I use sms use er allo.
00:49:51:22 – 00:50:00:24
Unknown
One other like tip is that I, when I bought my new phone, I realized that in the US they’ve removed the SIM, the physical sim slot in the US phones.
00:50:00:24 – 00:50:09:04
Unknown
On iPhones. And granted you can get E sims in most countries and all of that, but the local SIM is usually much less expensive.
00:50:09:04 – 00:50:10:26
Unknown
And so I made a point.
00:50:10:26 – 00:50:20:10
Unknown
We were in Switzerland, and so I bought my phone in Switzerland so that I had the physical SIM slot and can still use physical sims because it was worth it to me. But,
00:50:20:10 – 00:50:31:43
Unknown
it’s just like those little things that you. Yeah, I unfortunately, you don’t really figure out. And until trial and error. No. That’s true. I wanted to say we studied so much, you know, because we’re online as well.
00:50:31:43 – 00:50:58:16
Unknown
We’re web designers. So we got to contact our people through online. And I didn’t even use WhatsApp. I had it on my phone, but I didn’t really use it. But now it’s like everybody WhatsApp. What does that mean? What does that mean? And I’ve learned something here in Mexico. They don’t use websites, they don’t like websites. And as much as I tell them, you know, I mean, I haven’t really converse with the Mexican people yet, but as much as I know from here, if you need a website, stop using Facebook and Instagram.
00:50:58:16 – 00:51:17:59
Unknown
Guess what? They use Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. Yeah, it’s not a don’t go to the URL, go to WhatsApp, use it that way, call them, send pictures and everything. They live and die on WhatsApp. So that’s been really hard to, to deal with. And before I got here, I did have a Google phone number that I use.
00:51:18:13 – 00:51:37:11
Unknown
I did not port my number as I understand you can’t do that anymore, but I use my Google phone and it operates on Wi-Fi, so I get my calls. My husband, thank God, got us a great plan on Verizon, and so we are able to use the phone here and not have these roaming things. But,
00:51:37:11 – 00:51:45:19
Unknown
our internet thing, we still do not have internet in our house because for some reason we cannot and we just moved into the condo,
00:51:45:19 – 00:51:46:29
Unknown
last Monday.
00:51:46:34 – 00:52:08:08
Unknown
And we have been fighting with them, trying to get them. And the guy just told me yesterday, yesterday. And I have repeated this whole thing like eight times for like ten different people, what the address was and they don’t have a real address, I figured out, and you can help me with this, David. I figured out that is the address starts with the street that you’re that you’re building is facing is on that street.
00:52:08:08 – 00:52:34:08
Unknown
So we’re on 25 Avenida north, right. So so it starts that way. Then you tell them the streets that you’re in between. Right. So beautiful. Yes. So it’s Main Street rates that are in between. And if you are in an apartment, you can tell them apartment number. The kicker with us is that we are in condominiums called Last Margaritas, which sounds good, right?
00:52:34:12 – 00:52:52:18
Unknown
But the condos across the street are called Last Margarita has two. Okay. And every time you bring it up on Google, what do you last margaritas to the last night. We want to try to get the water. That’s where the people were. And then we’re talking to the people in the apartment number and saying, are you, you know, Alvin and Carol Dunlap?
00:52:52:18 – 00:53:08:03
Unknown
And they’re like, no, we don’t know who those people are. So the people at the internet said, oh, we thought you were on 26 Avenue. I was like, where did you get 26 for? We never said that. He’s like, well, give me the whole thing. I mean, the address takes up a book. It’s from the the Latin number.
00:53:08:03 – 00:53:22:48
Unknown
You have to tell him the man, Santa. I don’t even know what that is, but you got to tell him that. You tell him the two stories. You got to tell him the apartment. You could tell everything. I mean, the address is crazy, and you don’t really have a real address. So my my husband was like, oh, my God, how do we get Amazon this?
00:53:22:48 – 00:53:39:36
Unknown
We have not tried that. Yeah. He is he has a Amazon junkie. So he is ready. So we got on. We got to try it. I’m just saying it’s just like when he says just like everybody says, you just got to adapt to where you are. And don’t think that wherever you move into is a little slice. Some of the United States it.
00:53:39:40 – 00:53:53:46
Unknown
I would just know. I want to echo that. I don’t think that the idea that the way the U.S. does it is normal. The way the world communicates is on WhatsApp and we’re the late ones. Yeah.
00:53:53:46 – 00:54:05:01
Unknown
It’s funny, and it’s the reason for it is it’s encrypted. It’s encrypted. That is a big deal. Yeah. So you should want that.
00:54:05:06 – 00:54:10:07
Unknown
Also, you can make calls for free and. Yeah, that’s a big deal.
00:54:10:07 – 00:54:25:25
Unknown
So yeah, just forget tax that’s looked at is like old school WhatsApp and click that. Suggestions were telephones I think I just lucked out 20 years ago when I started the foundation I bought a
00:54:25:25 – 00:54:29:26
Unknown
A202 number on Skype. It was on my phone.
00:54:29:26 – 00:54:53:29
Unknown
Whichever phone I have, wherever I am, it rings on my computer, wherever I am, and I have never had a problem. And then if we like this year we did a student study abroad call out program, and I had a bunch of interns calling all the universities in the US from all over the world. I just found them all numbers through Skype, and it’s pennies per call and it really worked out.
00:54:53:33 – 00:55:12:57
Unknown
You can choose a number with an area code that you want and get Skype out and just pay as you go, and it moves with your devices. And that was a good idea. That’s a good I hadn’t even thought of Skype. Yeah, because I had enough for for having a them is equal to my. It’s literally been our corporate telephone number for 20 years.
00:55:13:02 – 00:55:38:45
Unknown
And isn’t that great? Yeah, yeah. Oh, hey. Wow. Yeah. That’s. So I feel like we could just go on and on because there’s so much to dive into when it comes to what you’re navigating through. But I’m I’m kind of amazed just listening to all of your stories and how adaptable that you have had to become. But what comes to mind
00:55:38:45 – 00:55:46:11
Unknown
is you probably have this thing within you that everything is figure out all whatever it is, you can figure it out.
00:55:46:16 – 00:56:04:56
Unknown
And I think that’s something that we can all learn, you know, from what you guys are doing and the lives that you’re living. Because me, like, I’m in Texas and I’ve always been in Texas, this is all I’ve ever known. So I’m listening to you guys and I’m just like, oh my gosh, you know, this is what you’re going through.
00:56:04:56 – 00:56:30:05
Unknown
And I’m just thinking, I mean, everybody doesn’t live this way like, oh, them out of the country. So I’m just listening and I’m like, man, they have a figure out of spirit because they’re having to figure it out and just go with it and be flexible and be grateful. Right. Because I bet you’re finding things that you maybe have taken for granted.
00:56:30:10 – 00:56:38:44
Unknown
Then now you’re just so grateful to to have this or that, or have internet or be able to pick up the phone or just things that we take for granted here.
00:56:38:44 – 00:56:45:45
Unknown
So I think it’s just it’s fascinating. And the adventures that you’re on is like, I’m fascinated.
00:56:45:45 – 00:56:48:49
Unknown
And I know that people that are listening are gleaning so much,
00:56:48:49 – 00:56:54:18
Unknown
and even probably just thinking, wow, I think I want to do this or oh my gosh, I had no idea.
00:56:54:18 – 00:57:12:50
Unknown
I don’t know if I want to do this at all. I hope we didn’t scare anyone off. I think it’s extremely rewarding, like financially and, you know, every everything else too. So yeah, don’t be scared. Yeah. If you are scared, it doesn’t matter. Just do it. Guard. It doesn’t matter. Just do it. If it’s something you want to do.
00:57:12:50 – 00:57:31:25
Unknown
Thought about doing whatever. I love the look on people’s faces right now since we’re we’ve only been in Mexico, so it’s no longer right. I love coming online with my clients and they’re like, Carol, how’s it going? What’s going on? I was like, well, I moved to Mexico. They’re like, what? Mexico? What? You’re kidding. Right? So I thought, you’re actually joking.
00:57:31:25 – 00:57:50:44
Unknown
Oh, no. I’m in Mexico right now. What? Yeah. And then I have to go through the whole story. But that warms my heart to be able to tell them that, you know, that I’m here. I. I escaped. Yeah, people like hearing about it, you know, that was a fear. You know, moving abroad of thinking my clients would be frustrated or, you know, disappointed that I was outside the country.
00:57:50:44 – 00:58:11:41
Unknown
But it’s quite the opposite. And, you know, you still need to make sure you deliver the service and all of that. But yeah. Yeah. And I think also just the other thing is there’s so many people like us out here who want to help, want to share our experience. So if anyone is listening and wanting to do this, I know I’m always open to answering questions or being that source of encouragement.
00:58:11:46 – 00:58:33:05
Unknown
For anyone else. Yeah, I know I’m inspired. I’m encouraged. I’m like, how can we do this? I have two children at home, my husband, and I’m like, how do we do this? You know, is it possible, like the answer is yes. The answer is yes. I’ve met three families since I’ve been down here in Mexico. They’ve uprooted the family, uprooted everybody, and they just moved.
00:58:33:05 – 00:58:52:10
Unknown
And it doesn’t matter where. You know, just if you’re thinking about this, about going somewhere, my biggest thing is to research, figure out the three places you’d like to go in the world. Doesn’t matter if it’s across the street, across the world, across the ocean. Figure out three places, go on YouTube and start researching because that’s what we did.
00:58:52:10 – 00:59:10:22
Unknown
We started with five, whittle it down to three, and then that’s how we got to Mexico. Just, you know, just figure it out. Is it is figure out of all so you can do it. You just have to be prepared. And yes, there are some horror stories that have come from everywhere in the world. There’s some bad things that happened everywhere in the world.
00:59:10:26 – 00:59:34:56
Unknown
But my thing is, you can be a bright, shining light in the place that you go to and live your best life at the same doggone time. Just remember, you’re not a tree. You don’t have roots. You can go wherever you want, so just go do it. Absolutely. I don’t believe the U.S news. Yes, this is dangerous. They say even in the U.S news is almost always drugs and cartels.
00:59:35:01 – 00:59:59:46
Unknown
Right where I am is one of the safest places on the planet, right? I honestly when we were outside the US you started to like the U.S looks scary. Yeah, yeah, that’s what I am I am the U.S is scary. That’s why I do that. I want to be target practice for somebody with AK. I’m just sorry. So my kids would not go there for those reasons.
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I
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Unknown
here there was a shooting in the car in the parking lot of the closest target to work where H live.
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Unknown
It’s a parking space, right? Right there. Where from? Colorado. There were tons of school shootings, and I was so scared of those kinds of things. One day I was behind. There was a man who had been going around shooting Walmarts, and I was behind the car when he got pulled.
01:00:26:08 – 01:00:47:21
Unknown
He got picked up by the police. The police were pulling guns out of the back of his car. I was like, oh my gosh, I can’t wow. I was so scared. I watched the takedown of the Walmart shooter, okay? And I was done. I was done, yeah. But that I the rest of the world,
01:00:47:21 – 01:00:53:53
Unknown
or we in America from the US save you the rest of the world through such kind and condescension.
01:00:53:53 – 01:01:05:15
Unknown
Sometimes like, yeah, they’ll talk about Europe as old Europe. And I go back to the US, it’s like you land in LaGuardia. So
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Yeah, I know that there’s going to be those that want to connect with you guys, and I don’t feel like we’ve even had a chance to really dive very much into what each one of you,
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does.
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But perhaps we can learn more by sharing the gift or resource that you might have for the audience.
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So, David, would you like to go ahead and share?
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Unknown
like I mentioned earlier, I run a full service marketing agency. Everything we do is designed to help our clients get
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more of their perfect clients, patients or customers and grow their revenues.
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So ROI is a big focus with us.
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I can do a free 30 minute consultation.
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My online calendar, as is, W3 group
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or really easy to find online. My two biggest competitors are a, fortune 500 CEO and the former New York Mets baseball player David Wright. Well, I’m sure we’ll have the link to that in the show notes as well.
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So a free 30 minute consultation, I love that, I appreciate that. And one of you might get a copy of these two video marketing for your business. I probably need that,
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seven ways to make your Phone ring and Get more clients in 30 days or less. Those are your books. I’m assuming those are number five and six.
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I’ve got six books now, including two bestsellers, and I’m working on number seven and eight. Now to you. Wow. That’s awesome. So impressive. And a lot of fun.
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Wow. What about you, Susan? Would you like to share what you have for the audience and tell us a little bit more? Especially with the voting, I think,
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I would really love to know some of the, the resources that you have to share.
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Well, that has to be my guess, because,
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There are three websites US vote foundation.org where all the moving parts and services for any action you want to take, any question you want answered, we can answer it. There’s everything from looking up your sample ballot to tracking your ballot to just it’s all there for you. Overseas vote foundation.org. If you’ve never voted from abroad, it’s a great place to land.
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It really tells you right away. Wherever you are, you take the right to vote in your pocket and it takes you from there. And again, it will lead you to the services you need. And then if you’re wondering just how to vote, what is the whole complete process? Where do I start? Where do I end? What is it for me?
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You can go to us, stop, vote and take a walk with your voter journey map. And that’s when I would say that’s my gift to you. 20 years of hard work for literally no salary. I did it all for nothing.
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But I have a great team. They give so much of their lives and they’re expertise and knowledge, and they bring it to this area to help our fellow citizens.
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And so my gift to you is to give you the possible to vote. And I hope you, I love that. Yes, we’re all going to vote. Yes. Crystal, what about you?
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They can always visit shofar, B.Com. And,
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there’s a button there to learn about the African diaspora investment tour, where we will have people out to Namibia to teach them about opportunities and introduce them to government leaders and business leaders,
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so they can learn about that event.
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And there is a link to schedule time with me if they’re interested in learning more about any of the things that we do. I just love the name of that to the shofar. That sounds very powerful. I blow the shofar. Yes, yes, most people don’t know what that is. Yes, that’s exactly what I thought about when I read the title.
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I was like, oh, I felt that very powerful. Yes. So what about you? When once again.
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Yeah. So I, I run a web design business for wellness professionals. So if anyone is interested,
01:05:39:59 – 01:05:41:38
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who’s listening? Who is in that,
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realm either you have a website or you are wanting to create a website as a practitioner.
01:05:46:29 – 01:05:55:34
Unknown
Or a course creator in the wellness space, you can go to Whitney Bates and.com. But then specific to this topic today I did create a guide that is called Destination Freedom.
01:05:55:34 – 01:05:57:51
Unknown
That’s really just a few resources,
01:05:57:51 – 01:06:02:47
Unknown
about both living abroad and also the financial aspects of,
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Unknown
living abroad. And I really firmly believe that going abroad is one of the ways to get closer to financial freedom and achieve it.
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Unknown
I it’s certainly made it a lot easier for me to, to see that.
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Unknown
So you can go to Whitney Bates Inc.com slash Destination Freedom for that guide.
01:06:19:16 – 01:06:39:13
Unknown
That’s free. I love that. I’m gonna have to go grab that for myself. Carol, I know you have some amazing resources. Yes, I do, thank you so much. I just wanted to say thank you, everyone. This has been better than I thought it would be, and I thought it was going to be great. And y’all are so awesome.
01:06:39:13 – 01:06:58:08
Unknown
So hats off to you. Namaste. Thank you so much. All right. So my gift to everyone who is listening. And I’m also a web designer. And you’ll notice that Whitney, my friend Whitney, is a web designer as well. But there is no competition with us. We’re only collaborators and we can all learn from each other. No matter. No matter what.
01:06:58:08 – 01:07:17:19
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That’s been my thing for all my life, all of business, and it’s really served me well. But I do have a gift for you, and it’s called the Wow Website Planner. So if you want a Wow website, I have to do is go to my site and download. That planner is absolutely free. It will tell you exactly what you need to do to create the pages.
01:07:17:19 – 01:07:26:30
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You need to create all of that for your website, and it’s in the show notes below. I love that, I just want to say thank you to all of you,
01:07:26:30 – 01:07:37:34
Unknown
just for coming on here and sharing the challenges, the ups and downs. And I feel like inspiring because I’ve been inspired and and I’m wanting to see about this living abroad thing.
01:07:37:34 – 01:07:39:28
Unknown
So while building a business,
01:07:39:28 – 01:07:42:40
Unknown
so I know that those listening have been inspired to
01:07:42:40 – 01:07:50:02
Unknown
and even just to have that figure out, I don’t know if that’s even a word, but that keeps coming up, like everything it is. I think your audible. Yeah. Per
01:07:50:02 – 01:07:56:00
Unknown
or folio or so. Okay. Somebody else it is actually a word and it, it does.
01:07:56:05 – 01:08:09:10
Unknown
You know, it describes what we’re doing here. It’s all figured out. And when you figure it out, you’re like, I did not do this sooner. What was I waiting? Oh, why was I so scared? It’s okay. It’s fine. And you know what?
01:08:09:10 – 01:08:14:02
Unknown
Sabrina, and the reason that I ask you to be a moderator, not only that, you’re amazing.
01:08:14:02 – 01:08:36:37
Unknown
I’ve worked with you on some other things I’ve heard you speak, but just your reaction when I told you that I moved to Mexico, I thought you were going to faint. And I was like, if she reacts this way about Mexico, just think about all these other people who are actually doing business and making it work. I thought you would be, and you have been the perfect moderator and special co-host for this because you’re excited.
01:08:36:44 – 01:08:58:44
Unknown
You want to hear this. You’re asking the questions that everyone else wants to ask, but probably don’t have the people that can talk to or ask or find out. So you’ve done a superb job doing this. Thank you so much. Thank you so much just for letting me, because I am just super curious and it’s been so good just to hear a little snippet of your journeys.
01:08:58:49 – 01:09:18:59
Unknown
And I know that other people are inspired too, and I also believe that you probably add something different and unique to your businesses because you are living abroad and you are exposing yourself to different cultures. And I feel like that would create or add to what you’re already providing for your clients. I would imagine that it would.
01:09:19:04 – 01:09:29:18
Unknown
And so I think that’s just super cool. Yes. Thank you for bringing us together, Carol. Yes, thank you so much.
01:09:29:18 – 01:09:34:28
Unknown
It won’t be the last time, y’all. We might have a little part to add some other people in. You never
01:09:34:28 – 01:09:39:54
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know. And I’m just so glad that y’all or I’ll open to this and that. We made it work.
01:09:39:54 – 01:09:50:12
Unknown
And thank God I didn’t have no internet. I’m in a coworking space and it’s still great at work. Yeah. Good job. Make it work. Thanks.
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together.
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Unknown
Susan, you were impeccable. And your information is so wonderful. That’s why I knew I had to have you on here, just like everyone else.
01:09:57:38 – 01:10:11:41
Unknown
Believe what you see. Believe what you experience. Don’t believe what people tell you. Get out there for yourself and do it because you know you just got to. All right. Thanks everyone. I’ll have a okay. Thanks a lot. Hi.
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01:11:35:11 – 01:11:56:33
Unknown
All right. Hey. Welcome back. Did you enjoy that episode? It was. It was a hoot. Right out. So glad that I got to do it. Is so much fun doing that with everyone. And I guess just kind of showcasing how it is to have your business be a United States citizen, move abroad, live abroad and a work abroad.
01:11:56:38 – 01:12:18:15
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Own your business. Wasn’t it amazing? Now, I’m not going to hold you long because I know this, that the panel went longer than I thought it would. We had more fun than I thought we could and it was great. But I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you very much for tuning in, for watching and be on the look out for the next episode coming up.
01:12:18:15 – 01:12:20:46
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And in that episode, we’re going to be talking about
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Unknown
It’ll be Doctor Julie Heffner, and she is my client, colleague and a friend. We have some crazy times when we get all together. We just can’t shut up. But she is a functional medical professional, and she is going to show you how she prescribes growth for your business. So she’s going to be talking about your body and your business.
01:12:42:34 – 01:12:47:12
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It’s going to be fun. So make sure you tune in next time. Bye for now.
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